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  • Oh, what a tangled (World Wide) Web we Weave!

    Not too long ago, I began receiving a series of SPAM from an individual who has been banned from Daheshville.

    Apparently, this individual is sending out notices as well as posting announcements targeting a prominent Daheshist family.

    I am not going to describe the content of these letters in full detail. However, I will republish a few of the titles with enough information so that those who know who this is referring to would alert them.

    THE ***** FAMILY OF ********* ************: Owners of General Motors ***** ********, and Apostates from Islaam!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    The ***** family: Apostates from Islaam!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Secret Chiefs of Daheshism International |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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    THE ***** FAMILY..........Apostates from Islaam.....Secret Chiefs of "DAHESHISM" international.......owners of General Motors dealerships throughout ***** ***** and *******........................................... ........................SHALL THEIR DECEPTION CONTINUE?????

    Furthermore, this individual has quite literally reinvented Daheshism: Any Daheshist viewing this individual's so-called Daheshist web sites would be hard pressed to believe that any "older and wiser" Daheshist would even consider enabling the behavior of such an individual.

    But, it happened.

    An "older and wiser" Daheshist took it upon himself to make this individual his "protege" and went as far as using him (it would appear) as his own messenger when it came to posting messages on Daheshville, leading up to the defamatory comments about me personally on the heels of my reporting what I heard Doctor Dahesh say pertaining to the Virgin Birth.

    Evidently, my comments caused such a stir in the heart and mind of that "protege" that he stated (in no uncertain terms) that if Doctor Dahesh taught that Mary was not a virgin when Jesus was born then not only is he no longer a Daheshist, but that Doctor Dahesh was also a fraud.

    That "protege" was this close to renouncing his Daheshist faith when the "older and wiser" Daheshist wrote him an email stating that everything I said was untrue and that "unfortunately" I was one of those who did not "merit" to know the truth.

    On that eventual day, when the "protege" published these comments on Daheshville and many defended me, the "older and wiser" Daheshist had a conversation with the president of the corporation I co-founded. That president, for reasons too long to get into here, was looking for a reason to get rid of me. In fact, without my knowledge, I was stripped of my title of Vice President, fired (indirectly: I had to hear it from a friend... ) and a defamatory letter was circulated... In essence, describing how I got paid without doing any work, etc. etc. etc. essentially, and if I may be permitted to defend myself, filled with "truths" about me...

    Hmm...I wonder if the president's letter to my own family mentioned that I didn't want him to maintain a "professional" relationship with a woman he once proposed to, while being engaged to a Daheshist woman—who had begged me to have a talk with him...

    I am typing this as I am hearing distressing news about the health of the Daheshist woman... who happens to be related to me by blood...

    God, please give me patience...

    Anyway, it wasn't bad enough that 10 years prior to that I would be accused of the unthinkable by (oh the irony) the "Employers" of the "older and wiser" Daheshist... and, in fact, until today, there are those who echo certain sentiments about me, behind my back, without having the courage to ask me directly: "What happened?"

    But, why am I bringing up the "Employers" of the "Older and Wiser" Daheshist you might wonder dear esteemed reader?

    Simple: Remember those messages being posted by the "Protege?"

    Well, they are targeting none other than the "Employers" of the "older and wiser" Daheshist.

    Did I mention that these online posts (beside providing vital information about the employer) also cite telephone numbers? Oh, yes...

    And being that no one had thought of protecting the "Employer," I thought to myself:

    "What if someone showed the 'protege' positive proof that Doctor Dahesh himself said that Mary was not a Virgin when Jesus was born?"

    Oh, yes, I forgot to mention that about a year after I was fired, I found tangible proof that Doctor Dahesh said exactly that, in exactly the same chapter that I once quoted in Dahehville when attempting to prove that Doctor Dahesh mentioned in no unequivocal terms that he was a reincarnation of Jesus.

    As it turned out, it was that revelation that the "protege" used to build his own websites upon (websites that, as I indicated above, have disfigured Daheshism).

    So I thought, silly me, that if someone were to show that "protege" tangible proof that —to a Daheshist— Mary was not a Virgin when Jesus was born, then maybe, just maybe he will go away... and renounce Daheshism, especially that on his web sites he states that Daheshists believe that Mary was a literal virgin and that Jesus was born from the Holy Spirit.

    On May 13, 2008, the "protege" was presented with the evidence: a scan of the actual page showing tangible proof that Doctor Dahesh did not believe in the Virgin Birth as well as a translation and that he did not believe that Jesus was born of the Holy spirit...

    Furthermore, the "protege" was informed that this hard evidence came right out of page 86 of "Strange Tales and Wondrous Legends # 3"

    The response from the "protege" was that, to him, these were nothing more that fairy tales.

    Consequently, he was informed that in book #2 in the series, and in his introduction, Doctor Dahesh specifically wrote the following:

    "The stories in which I have mentioned incidences of reincarnation are not imaginary"

    The "Protege" replied, once again, that he still will not believe that this was true...

    So, as a last resort, he was informed that he should contact the "older and wiser" Daheshist and ask him specifically...

    You see...as it turned out, the wife of the "Older and Wiser" Dahehist, who signed her name to the letter claiming I was fabricating the non-Virgin birth myth and consequently painted me as a liar and one without merit, was, in fact, the person who authored the introduction to Book#3 which contains the evidence in question...

    Incidentally, in the past, the "Protege" threatened my life in an email
    "If I ever meet you, you're gonna wish you have NEVER been born!"

    So, the result?

    An unstoppable "protege" who has been enabled by the "older and wiser" Daheshist, whose Employers have now become targets of the "protege"...


    "Fail, to succeed."

  • #2
    Scan of Page 86

    This is a scan of page 86 from "Strange Tales and Wondrous Legends" Part 3. (followed by a scan of the cover). And here is a translation of some of the key elements ...

    As a side note: anyone still using the tried and true excuse of "oh, but we should not air our dirty laundry in public" should, once and for all, realize that the "in-house" washing machine is broken and that the dirty is stinking up "the house" big time!

    Silence is the reason that Daheshism is being disfigured and presented in a distorted manner!

    " And what beckons deep thought are these fairy tales in which all the people of Earth were swept away, and especially the Christians who are connected to me, is in that they say that I was born from the Virgin Mary, that I sprang from the Holy Spirit, for what merit would I have — if only they realize — if I was born with a spiritual power and with a Heavenly Miracle, for then I would be enjoying a Godly Power that would protect me from committing [ al danaaya ] (lowly acts?), and places me over humans, and eliminate from me the aspect of being human, and then there wouldn't be any merit in my being correct and honest [...] and for calling towards... righteousness and to be steadfast in religion and fearing the last day.

    "And merit, all the merit would be mine if I was born from two parents and upon me was applied what would apply to every human being, only then would I have all the merit ... that is if I was able to overcome my earthly temptations... and called for righteousness... after I was able to practice (it) myself and made it bow to my will...."
    Last edited by Daheshville; 12-21-2008, 09:03 AM. Reason: Typos

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Daheshville View Post
      As a side note: anyone still using the tried and true excuse of "oh, but we should not air our dirty laundry in public" should, once and for all, realize that the "in-house" washing machine is broken and that the dirty is stinking up "the house" big time!

      Silence is the reason that Daheshism is being disfigured and presented in a distorted manner!
      I think for the most part, "airing" these things is not even about making dirty laundry public; I think the more important issue here is to illuminate what IS NOT WORKING so that others that follow us, can maybe better see the BIG PICTURE and avoid these chasmic pitfalls that have continued to plague the current incarnation of THE MISSION.

      Secondly, I think these "airings" will hopefully set a precedent that all groups need and that is one of; IF SOMETHING IS WRONG, CAN SOMEONE PLEASE STEP FORWARD AND FIX IT... or at least ASK WHY? or can someone PLEASE CLARIFY WHAT HAPPENED? This sadly has not been the way when certain issues have arisen.

      The Daheshist Mission, will ultimately come together and get organized and thrive. Everyone who considers themselves a Daheshist knows this. Amidst many other questions, the primary question is when. Those that are so inclined to further "the cause" must always weigh in on the BIG PICTURE of their actions. I have too often seen (and experienced the personal brunt of) the mentality that "well, I am a Daheshist, I am feeling such and such, so therefore I must be right with what I am doing..." and sometimes just missing the truth of the matter or the farther reaching ramifications of the big picture. And then there are those that just don't care...

      In this case, I think the misguided actions and self serving directives of "the protoge" go well beyond the information this sad individual was given or not given... I think the motivations of twisting information for his own purposes would have happened regardless... but maybe with greater spin control if he had been better managed... However, what stands as a wrong, is that a very loyal Daheshist, our Mario, was hung out to dry and left alone because of his standing by in defense of the actual words and teachings of Dr. Dahesh... teachings that other Daheshists knew in fact to be true. Keeping "the protege" in the fold seemed more important than the TRUTH of Dr. Dahesh's own words and standing along side Mario; Mario, who has only stood by and defended the truth of Dr. Dahesh.

      Now this "protoge" is a loose and wild cannon left to his own devices and the free power of the internet to spew his fabrications... and now he has formed his own conclusions of what Daheshism is and isn't... perpetuating arguments to suite his own agenda and NO LONGER CARING WHAT DR. DAHESH ACTUALLY SAID AND WROTE... The "protoge" has created his own reality based upon his own problems and perceptions... nothing else.

      This is sad, and must not happen again. If there was a strong, centralized, unified, organized group of Daheshists, this 1) conceivably would never have happened in the first place and 2) if things started to drift in this direction, there would have been a unified group and mindset to deal with this issue thoroughly and concisely.

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      • #4
        Appreciation

        I do appreciate the efforts that you have made because how else would I, new to Daheshism, know the difference from those who would invent their own religion. A religion that suits their needs, not the needs of all people. All people need to know and understand the truth so that they do fall into the trap of worshiping falsely.

        Thank you Mario for your efforts.

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        • #5
          Tabarnak!

          "Protege" makes me physically ill. How long has he had that particular missive on the web?
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          "Call me late, just don't call me late for dinner."-Checker Flag Bubba

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          • #6
            Wow!

            I can't believe the audacity of this guy. Surely, the maligned party must be aware of this. Do you think they can shut this guy up! Do they own General Motors dealerships or are they into tractors? Do you know, somehow this is going to be blamed on Daheshville.
            Last edited by Loup Solitaire; 05-22-2008, 07:31 PM.

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            • #7
              Hi Guys,

              Firstly, thank you and I truly appreciate your recognition. I do speak on behalf of several dedicated individuals, without whom — ultimately — this place would not exist. And, I have to (at the risk of embarrassing her to the point of no return) mention that without Sandrine's efforts, I'd be dead on the street.

              Secondly, in terms of when all this started... I got the first email on May 6 and I thought "here we go again..."

              Then, on the morning of the 7th, I saw the dream which was entered in the post below. Since then, we've stopped all activities pertaining to the Symbol movie and focused on bringing you a unique story by Doctor Dahesh... which, according to him, is not imaginary, since it discusses reincarnation.

              http://www.daheshville.com/forum/sho...8&postcount=54

              Thirdly... Anyone who blatantly tells you that they reject the printed words of Doctor Dahesh (in a book printed while he was alive and under his supervision) is a fanatic.

              All that "Older and wiser" Daheshist had to do, mind you, was tell the truth... Ah, but I suppose it is better to save face before history even if doing so is at the expense of repeating it!

              So, because of this ego-driven act, generations upon generations of Daheshists might potentially believe in a myth that their own prophet worked so hard to eradicate...
              "Fail, to succeed."

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              • #8
                Originally posted by ronschaum View Post
                I can't believe the audacity of this guy. Surely, the maligned party must be aware of this. Do you think they an shut this guy up! Do they own General Motors dealerships or are they into tractors? Do you know, somehow this is going to be blamed on Daheshville.
                Of course this is going to be blamed on Daheshville... All of it...

                But, I want to see one shred of evidence on Daheshville where I (personally) have done more than merely raise a voice of dissent with regard to certain un-Daheshist behavior on the part of those who have (personally) told me were "in charge" of Daheshism.

                I have certain rights and I have evoked them.

                Furthermore, I have certain duties and I have (I hope) fulfilled them.

                It is unthinkable to me to remain silent over certain words spoken or printed.

                Did I lose it sometimes? Of course. But, let anyone experience what I have and remain stoic. I'll wash your car for a year! (Sorry, I don't do slavery anymore...)

                As for activism: America is built on activism. Where would we be (for example) without people such as Ralph Nader?

                Daheshism, true Daheshism, is not for everyone nor is it a hobby. Like any true faith (especially in its beginning stages) it requires an immense level of dedication. I am not claiming I have it... I am merely saying that no level of dedication can ever be enough for any of God's true messages.

                I even heard Bill Cosby comment that certain middle class African Americans used to complain that Dr. King's "activities" were making it hard for them to earn a living...
                "Fail, to succeed."

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                • #9
                  Latest "Love Letter" from Darrick to Mario

                  We're republishing this message that Mario Henri Chakkour received earlier. Some of the profanity has been automatically cleaned up...


                  Begin forwarded message:

                  From: Darrick Evenson <[email protected]>
                  Date: May 23, 2008 05:46:38 PM EST
                  To: Mario Chakkour, [email protected]
                  Subject: Darrick Evenson BANNED from the DAheshist Faith

                  Really Mario? When the Daheshist Pope pronounce this???

                  And, by the way...WHO is the Daheshist Pope? Mario?

                  I'm already BANNED from Daheshville *******. You banned me many months ago.

                  You are such a ****ING ego-maniacally INSANE fool!!!

                  Darrick
                  Last edited by Daheshville; 05-23-2008, 06:30 PM.

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                  • #10
                    Wait... Another &quot;Love Letter&quot; just waltzed in!

                    From: Darrick Evenson <[email protected]>
                    Date: May 24, 2008 06:54:20 AM EST
                    To: Mario Chakkour
                    Subject: The Brax's and Monir were right about you...

                    You're a NUTcase!

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Daheshville View Post
                      We're republishing this message that Mario Henri Chakkour received earlier. Some of the profanity has been automatically cleaned up...


                      Begin forwarded message:

                      From: Darrick Evenson <[email protected]>
                      Date: May 23, 2008 05:46:38 PM EST
                      To: Mario Chakkour, [email protected]
                      Subject: Darrick Evenson BANNED from the DAheshist Faith

                      Really Mario? When the Daheshist Pope pronounce this???

                      And, by the way...WHO is the Daheshist Pope? Mario?

                      I'm already BANNED from Daheshville *******. You banned me many months ago.

                      You are such a ****ING ego-maniacally INSANE fool!!!

                      Darrick
                      Darrick, you seem to be reading here on Daheshville. I have taken you to task before on your inappropriate actions... none of which you have been able to man up and explain with any rational or reasonable coherence... or even correct grammar.

                      As I have said before, if you attack my brother Mario, you also attack me... And you are now in fact are attacking Mario AGAIN, so therefore you are now attacking me. I just want you to know this.

                      Secondly, we don't even need to argue with you head to head... you can be put in your place purely based upon FACT and LOGIC. Neither of which you pay much attention to.

                      Thirdly, and you must know this because you seem to thrive so incredibly upon it... all across the little universe you have created here on the web, NO ONE can credibly back you up or stand by you. I am not even talking about you being alone with your opinions, you certainly have a God given right to those; no, I am talking about that no one champions your methods or your character. You seem to really enjoy this and use it as your compass; "The crazier I am and the more people shun me, the more right I must be..."

                      As far as Mario goes; I in fact champion his methods, I support his actions and his character is beyond reproach. I can understand if you choose to disagree with me, with Mario and with Daheshists in general... that is fine, that is your right... but it is also MY right and OUR right to point out to you where and when you are wrong...

                      However, in ANY avenue of thought or belief... what you have said about Mario, the FOUL, VULGAR and INAPPROPRIATE language you use when contacting him or when you are pressured... THIS IS WRONG. THIS IS TOTALLY INAPPROPRIATE. THIS is the most telling thing about your character. I see you taking this approach to others on the internet as well when they have pushed you. You don't respond with the intellect that I sometimes see you using and do give you credit for.

                      I don't know where you come from Darrick (technically, yes I do know, there are many ways to find those things out, and I have utilised those ways fully...) what I mean is spiritually... I don't know SPIRITUALLY where you are coming from... your "issues" are motivated by something... something from "here" and something from "out there".

                      You actually sometimes seem to want to do something noble and right... but then you turn everything in to something that SO TOTALLY WRONG and CONFUSED and SELF SERVING TO ONLY YOU that I don't even know where to start.

                      I have seen you do this in other arenas and faiths, and now you are continuing to do this in Daheshism, which for the record, you are NOT a Daheshist... there I said it. I don't care what YOU SAY you believe in... you do not in any way ACT in a manner that someone who humbly and earnestly wants to follow a journey of the life of a Daheshist acts... nor have I seen you DO anything that is appropriate behavior FOR a Daheshist to do. Pure and simple, and those are the facts. And what you propegate on your websites... IS NOT DAHESHISM. Yes, there may be pieces of information that we as Daheshists believe, but in totality, taking in to account all the information you have just FABRICATED and all the other information which is true that you CHOOSE NOT TO BELIEVE or ACCEPT, all these things taken in the BIG PICTURE... what you present IS NOT DAHEHISM.
                      Last edited by Johnson; 05-25-2008, 05:39 PM.

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                      • #12
                        Not that it's worth the bits and its that I'm wasting on you, but Darrick, if your spiritual search was ever sincere, and I think that it once was, it seems that your spiritual search is long over, displaced completely by your personal agenda.

                        Your spiritual search always was an obstacle in the way of your agenda, and so it is no surprise to see you joining the ranks of gainsayers, laying your search aside for fun-filled activities like lashing out at people that have nothing at to do with the pit that you alone continue to dig for yourself.

                        And it's all just too bad that it's come to this. On one hand you have the emotional intelligence of a really bratty nine-year old. And on the other hand you have an ability to get from A to B to C to Zed in a somewhat logical fashion that people can follow and that I often find quite convincing. I actually appreciate much of the work you've done in the past. If you actually developed that capacity instead of squandering your energy armoring your agenda within a fortress of error, half-truths, self-deceiving fantasies and 100 pro-cent lies then you might begin to be useful to the Lord as a hand of his Cause.

                        But a course correction is probably too late, and I probably sin in my wish that you repent of your invincible folly and set to blazes the hellish monument to your own ego and seared conscience. Baby, you had your shot and got right there in your own way. You are the obstacle that you've been tripping over.
                        ________________________________________________
                        "Call me late, just don't call me late for dinner."-Checker Flag Bubba

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Daheshville View Post
                          We're republishing this message that Mario Henri Chakkour received earlier. Some of the profanity has been automatically cleaned up...


                          Begin forwarded message:

                          From: Darrick Evenson <[email protected]>
                          Date: May 23, 2008 05:46:38 PM EST
                          To: Mario Chakkour, [email protected]
                          Subject: Darrick Evenson BANNED from the DAheshist Faith

                          Really Mario? When the Daheshist Pope pronounce this???

                          And, by the way...WHO is the Daheshist Pope? Mario?

                          I'm already BANNED from Daheshville *******. You banned me many months ago.

                          You are such a ****ING ego-maniacally INSANE fool!!!

                          Darrick
                          Originally posted by Daheshville View Post
                          From: Darrick Evenson <[email protected]>
                          Date: May 24, 2008 06:54:20 AM EST
                          To: Mario Chakkour
                          Subject: The Brax's and Monir were right about you...

                          You're a NUTcase!

                          This is a very interesting and very telling email. While I certainly don't consider Darrick a terribly credible source for a whole lot, one thing he does somewhat consistently (and consistently well) in his little world is state facts and then twist them to serve his own purposes.

                          Here he is crediting "the Brax's" and "Monir" with calling Mario a "NUTcase". The correct phrase from them may or may not have been this... they could possibly have referred to Mario as "crazy" or some such thing... none the less... I have no doubt such a comment was made. And in Darrick's imitable style, he requotes them and lets us know about it... all in an effort to bolster his own perceptions of his personal futilities in life and use what he perceives as others distain and animosity toward Mario as actual ammunition against Mario. None of this is surprising in Darrickland.

                          What I find more disturbing and telling is that other Daheshists (in this case THREE OF THEM) are making OFFENSIVE (I will come back to this term in a moment) remarks against another Daheshist, that being our DAHESHIST brother, Mario.

                          The term OFFENSIVE I mean in two ways; one, I mean it as in "actively aggressive" which saying such things in fact are... and two, I mean it as "an organized and forceful campaign to achieve something, typically a political or social end"... which I do in fact think is a factor too. These terms were not even used against Mario in a defensive manner of something Mario has done against these three people...

                          I don't know what goes on in the hearts and minds of others as to WHY these individuals feel the need to try and hurt and discredit Mario. Mario has defended at one time or another, every other Daheshist I have ever met in the Mission... sometimes the people in question knew this, other times they didn't. None the less, this is a fact.

                          Since then, most of what I have witnessed concerning other Daheshists (like in this case) is an ongoing discrediting and undermining of Daheshists that are actually making a positive change in things... such as with the "case" here that people seem to be making against Mario. Everything Mario has created, works and is alive and well and making a positive change and awareness for the life and legacy of Dr. Dahesh and makes this information of Dr. Dahesh easily accessible in a community to others... His efforts have not been exerted toward the writing of a book on revisionist history or to discredit the works and efforts of others in the Mission, or any other act or deed to stand back and have people pour accolades upon them for their notable accomplishments... AND he has had to serve as the quality control engineer of things about Dr. Dahesh and his life that others have said that have either not made sense, or have just been plain WRONG ... can others say that about their "efforts"?
                          Last edited by Johnson; 05-25-2008, 05:40 PM.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Johnson View Post

                            Here he is crediting "the Brax's" and "Monir" with calling Mario a "NUTcase". The correct phrase from them may or may not have been this... they could possibly have referred to Mario as "crazy" or some such thing... none the less... I have no doubt such a comment was made. And in Darrick's imitable style, he requotes them and lets us know about it... all in an effort to bolster his own perceptions of his personal futilities in life and use what he perceives as others distain and animosity toward Mario as actual ammunition against Mario. None of this is surprising in Darrickland.
                            If DTE said I was a "Nutcase" as a disparaging comment, that would be a complement since it would put me in different territory than him.

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                            • #15
                              I have no real care or cast attention to any of DTE's opinions on anything ...other than to dismantle his presenting of false information and hyperbole in areas that matter to me... or the fact that DTE has openly threatened one of us.

                              What DOES concern me is that other Daheshists, older Daheshists refer to Mario as "crazy" and in doing so, are so quick to summarily dismiss, disregard and discredit him.

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