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    I've always had a great interest in politics. I probably shouldn't even try to tell you what kind of politics I myself espouse...but being the dang fool I am I'll just say I'm a Christian-Democrat with both "social democratic" and "libertarian socialist" tendencies. A political scientist would probably call me a "civic republican" or a "populist." I'm also a citizen of USAmerica and I don't get to vote that way!

    We've recently been treated to someone's idea of what a Daheshist political movement might be like. Most, if not all of us take exception to its particulars and my guess is that most if not all of us who read it could discern no coherent philosophy, a public philosophy if you will, in the text. Genuine, vibrant and engaging political movements are energized by their worldview. Their vision of the good life proceeds from a shared worldview where common assumptions are made about the nature of the universe, humanity, issues of what belongs to whom and to whose benefit and on what conditions and so forth. A worldview where egotism is exalted above and beyond human solidarity will result in a very different kind of political movement than ones in which organic social and economic relationships are valued above the commodification of all things.

    Did Dr. Dahesh speak of his own worldview as being relevant to politics? Is there something that could truly be called a Daheshist public philosophy...something on which to base a social and political movement?
    Last edited by zionic; 06-22-2007, 01:56 PM. Reason: minor typos
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    Caution!

    May I ask where you got that quote from?!


    "We pledge to love each other in the same way the Beloved and Guiding Prophet loved us and who sacrificed everything for the sake of our guidance."--Dr. Dahesh
    "Fail, to succeed."

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    • #3
      I got it from the Daheshblog. Mounir wrote down an account of Dr. Dahesh's funeral. It kind of stood out to me.

      I"ll go ahead and take it out of my signature in case there is a problem with it....as your caution sign seems to indicate. But beyond that, is Mounir's account a true account of the pledge/covenants taken?
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      • #4
        Oh no... Please leave it as is. I need to go to this ... Blog... and check it out for myself. "I'll be back"
        "Fail, to succeed."

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Mario View Post
          May I ask where you got that quote from?!


          "We pledge to love each other in the same way the Beloved and Guiding Prophet loved us and who sacrificed everything for the sake of our guidance."--Dr. Dahesh
          http://daheshblog.com/2007/06/18/the...of-dahesh.aspx

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          • #6
            Thank you... and the answer is...

            Okay, I skimmed it quickly.

            First, I noticed that Mounir removed the link to Dahesh.org, whereas we still have his... hmm.

            Plus, the old version of this piece mentioned me being present with the embalmers... hmm..

            OK, we did NOT all of us leave the room. Someone HAD to remain with the embalmers (2 or them) when it was decided that the embalming should take place in the foyer or vestibule that lead to his private quarters (which Mervat Zahid built especially for the Doctor. It was wonderul with a fantastic private library, a space truly befitting the Prophet.

            Now, because we could never, ever, leave anyone inside the Doctor's private quarters without supervision, someone had to volunteer...

            Three of us did.

            Amr Zahid
            Mahmood Zahid
            Mario Henri Chakkour

            All three of us spent 3 hours with the embalmers, helping, assisting, with the embalming.

            My brother Chucri, not believing really that the Doctor passed away, kept (according to what he said before me) hoping that he was still alive.

            I heard Amr speak to Chucri and tell him to travel from Beirut to the U.S.A.

            It was still rather cold on that April. But we still had to do the embalming quickly. So Chucri missed it. I am sure he would have volunteered. I felt I was representing him.

            Chucri had to take a boat from Beirut to Cyprus. Then hop on the 12 hour journey to the USA.

            According to what he said "I was imagining getting to the house and seeing the Doctor and that he would say to me 'Oh Chucri, and you forgot to bring my passport with you... where is your mind..."

            But then he said, the minute he saw my face (I picked him up from the airport... it had been 5 years since we had last seen one another) he knew it was all over... Amira asked "was Mario crying?" Chucri replied "No, but I know my own brother"

            Why do I mention Chucri? well, because it was Chucri who drafted the letter. But, he did not compose the letter by himself. Mervat Zahid, being (and rightly so) perhaps at her peak in terms of the mixture of emotions going through her... BUT SHE KEPT IT TO HERSELF... asked Chucri to sit down and help her compose a prayer, a promise, a vow. I have a xerox of the prayer. Actually, the whole scene was sweet and endearing... "We can't say that, can we?" Chucri would ask and she would say "you write it down Chucri!" and he would go "Oookay..."

            I miss those days...

            So, my point is that these words are NOT the words of Doctor Dahesh, but the words of the 20 Daheshists who were there throughout the experience.

            Only 19 went with the Casket. Chucri rode in the back of the Station wagon with the Casket. The Casket was not fully closed. So, to prevent its cover from bouncing up and down, he respectfully embraced it with his arm...

            I stayed behind to guard the house, as I often did when he was alive, and sometimes after he was gone...
            Last edited by Mario; 06-22-2007, 02:50 PM.
            "Fail, to succeed."

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            • #7
              One more thing... some us ended with yellow paper (which we use in the prayer) that touched his body for the last time. I was one of these fortunate people...

              Plus, in one scene, Mounir's sister takes the bloodied sheets to her (then) children (a 20 year old young man and a 14 or so teenage girl) and shows it to them and says "Look, look, I want you to look and NEVER forget! Be loyal to the Doctor! Never forsake him!"
              "Fail, to succeed."

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              • #8
                And now, back to your question...

                Originally posted by zionic View Post
                Did Dr. Dahesh speak of his own worldview as being relevant to politics? Is there something that could truly be called a Daheshist public philosophy...something on which to base a social and political movement?
                I think there definitely IS information in my stack of books that would answer your question. I will need some time to do the research.

                In the meantime, I will say "YES" and not just because he would often—as he and I would be having lunch or dinner and the TV would be on—point at some nonsense being reported on CNN (for example... Oh, I don't know... something REALLY outrageous, albeit allowed under the constitution) and say "Why doesn't Reagan forbid them from doing that?"

                The answer is obvious. But the question is loaded. I think he meant (really) to say "why isn't the country as a whole spiritually aware of the fact this is wrong?"

                But that's MY interpretation of his words. Anyway, to be continued... Also, my brothers Georges and Chucri are IDEAL when it come to answering a question like that.
                Last edited by Mario; 06-23-2007, 01:04 AM.
                "Fail, to succeed."

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