Are we dreaming ?

[Sandrine]

Dear Friends,

The legacy of Doctor Dahesh belongs to A Woman, her daughters and her sons … The Doctor had HIS reasons and nobody can ever say anything about this …

However, nowadays the subject of women in Dasheshim is still a very sensitive subject and that’s unbelievable!

Women do not represent a kind of rare species that 'some men' could put inside a cage, treat them the way they want and impose upon them the role ‘they’ think is the most appropriate to their feminine condition :

I am afraid for the future of my sisters because, insidious beliefs could infiltrate their minds.

I say that because I have seen a close sister of mine becoming quite brain-washed by a daheshist man.

This man made her believe that in the orthodox conception of Daheshism, a good Daheshist woman should be a submissive and docile wife who should follow her husband in total blindness... "for better or for worse" !

I have never considered myself belonging to any feminist movement. I believe that men and women are equal and completing each others …

But, I do hope that we will never see in Daheshism what we see in other religions purposely misinterpreted by 'some men' whose only desires are to subjugate people and especially enslave women …

When I read the following words written by this man to her future wife … I am frightened !

To put things in context, I have to say that her situation was hard, she loved him but she also had to abandon her family, leave her country, culture, work, identity, and start everything from zero so that she would be with ‘The Husband’ … and part of the man's words were :

"All that I wanted was a wife that understands that her priorities in life begin with her marriage..."

I think I am dreaming !

To be continued ... because there is a lot that need to be said ...

[Mario]

Well, the problem as I see it is this: If you feed the upcoming generation of Daheshists Men ONLY what the Doctor has written about WOMAN in his book "Kalimaat" (WORDS) then ... that's the result you are going to get.

It's only when you read the "other stuff" that you understand—in the final analysis—what Doctor Dahesh was saying.

But what the bleep do I know?

No... wait... I know something: The Doctor himself chose me to work very closely with these women you speak of. I saw him interact with them. He was always kind, patient, loving etc. Yes, sometimes he would be upset. And frankly, who wouldn't choke the neck of one particular "sister"... Even Brother Ali told her that her toungue was like a sword! But the Doctor never got upset with them because they were women.

OK, so one time, right after he recovered from his heart attack, and a sister rushed to the apartment, I opened my mouth and mentioned that another sister called... You should have seen the look the Doctor gave me ... the "What did you just do" look... And, he threw it at me a couple ... no... 5 or 6 times...

After the sister was gone, I began sweating... I was going to get it... but... the "talk" never came. Of course, it did come when I least expected it and he said "What were you thinking saying that so and so called when so and so was here?" I said "I am sorry, I thought she would be happy to know..." (see, I gave up on Brotherhood and clung to Sisterhood) and that's when he said something that gave me my first dose of reality "Don't you know that women are jealous of one another?"

OK, this may have been meant for only he and I. But I feel that, in order for my story to be plausible, I have to paint the exact picture.

The Doctor showed me that whether man or woman, we must understand the psychology of the sexes, and exercise finesse.

I've seen him deal with some "sensitive" men with kid gloves...

If he didn't care how the Sisters felt, he wouldn't have given me "the look"... OH, how I miss that look...

And, another thing: Every Daheshist man I have met who has given me lectures about how he can't work with women, or who had orthodox views about women, turned out to be a hypocrite in the end.

Let's go to the video monitor shall we?

Two days after the death of the Doctor. I hear a Daheshist brother say to the woman who inherited everything : "As you know, I have issues when it comes to working with women. So, if you don't mind, I will deal with your son." (And we wonder why this women eventually... lost it!)

She, I swear to GOD, said "OK, I understand." But I could see the dagger of hurt split her in two.

That man, later, of course, had no problem insisting on working with her daughters and making sure he tells me that, in fact, I was betraying the Doctor for having loved these women as my family... I had the misfortune of confiding in him that, now that the Doctor was gone, I will continue protecting them (silly me, being that I WAS often called to be with these women as protection, I dared assume...) anyway, his comments to me (I was 23 years old) made me question everything I did, thought, ... threw me in deep depression... for years... Basically, what I was told was this: The fact that the Doctor chose me to be so close to them could only have been to test me... It had nothing to do with who I was as a person, etc.

But later, much later, I found a story by the Doctor which I was convinced was talking about him. I realised that he was projecting his fears, his regrets, onto me. I was an easy target.

Hadn't it been for the fact that this sister (while her daughter was present) later (and totally out of the blue) told me of a particular dream the Doctor told her about me, and which reminded me of the spiritual letter I got from Brother Ali (add to that the promise he —brother Ali— made me afterwards) I wouldn't have recovered.

Ironically, and sadly, that same woman and I would have a great fall out.
But none of it has to do with the fact she was a woman. Man or Woman, I still think she acted improperly. I also reacted improperly as well and I should have kept quiet and walked away silently. I would have still been excommunicated ... but I would have done it with class. Chalk it up to youthful inexperience.

As for that man, Sandrine, you speak about: Any MAN who insists on maintaining a "friendship" with a woman to whom he proposed years ago, WHILE being "married" to a Daheshist Sister, is unacceptable.

Even if he is a messiah... as he often claims to be... In fact, I have one of his quotes he sent me via email:

Common sense dictates that the person entrusted by the Spirit and the Beloved with the spread of Daheshism
and the laying down of the Daheshist teachings (not interpretations) be helped and respected.

[Sandrine]

Even if he is a messiah... as he often claims to be... In fact, I have one of his quotes he sent me via email:

Common sense dictates that the person entrusted by the Spirit and the Beloved with the spread of Daheshism
and the laying down of the Daheshist teachings (not interpretations) be helped and respected.

And who basically thinks he has the right to speak in the name of The Doctor ...MY GOD .... isn't it the worst blaspheme of all ?

Here is what he also wrote to our dearest sister :

"Your understanding of spirituality and of Daheshism is not mainstream, nonetheless, it is your spirituality and you do what is right for you. I am certain the Doctor would disagree with many of your views...again, it is my opinion."

I would answer him that YES and Thank GOD, WE do not understand Daheshism the way he does ... and we will always reject any kind of dictatorship ...

[Loup Solitaire]

Women do not represent a kind of rare species that 'some men' could put inside a cage, treat them the way they want and impose upon them the role ‘they’ think is the most appropriate to their feminine condition .................................................. .................................................. brain-washed by a daheshist man.........a good Daheshist woman should be a submissive and docile wife who should follow her husband in total blindness... ...........'some men' whose only desires are to subjugate people and especially enslave women …

When I was was a younger man, I had some unhealthy views on relationships with women. I thought male dominance was necessary. Even, when I first married, I still had some unhealthy ideas. But as I matured, I treated my marriage more and more as a partnership of equal authority, responsibility, and respect. As a couple, my wife and I learned that a marriage can have a division of responsibility, but still have equality of respect and without dominance. Our relationship has grown better over the years. My wife's successes have become my successes. There are few disagreements. Concessions are easier on both sides. Although we are together, I always feel that I have a great deal of flexibility to do the things that are most meaningful to me.

[Johnson]

And who basically thinks he has the right to speak in the name of The Doctor ...MY GOD .... isn't it the worst blaspheme of all ?

Here is what he also wrote to our dearest sister :

"Your understanding of spirituality and of Daheshism is not mainstream, nonetheless, it is your spirituality and you do what is right for you. I am certain the Doctor would disagree with many of your views...again, it is my opinion."

I would answer him that YES and Thank GOD, WE do not understand Daheshism the way he does ... and we will always reject any kind of dictatorship ...

The quote by this individual is clueless arrogance at its absolute finest. This person can speak of the mind of Dr. Dahesh? Is he serious??? I mean really... come on dude, lighten up already. Let's take it one step further in the natural progression...does God himself speak directly to this person as well? Maybe he and Oral Roberts can compare notes... unbelievable.

[Johnson]

When I was was a younger man, I had some unhealthy views on relationships with women. I thought male dominance was necessary. Even, when I first married, I still had some unhealthy ideas. But as I matured, I treated my marriage more and more as a partnership of equal authority, responsibility, and respect. As a couple, my wife and I learned that a marriage can have a division of responsibility, but still have equality of respect and without dominance. Our relationship has grown better over the years. My wife's successes have become my successes. There are few disagreements. Concessions are easier on both sides. Although we are together, I always feel that I have a great deal of flexibility to do the things that are most meaningful to me.

Ron, you speak with such openess. The key here, that you so wonderfully conveyed is that you grew...as we all strive to do. You grew as an individual and you grew as a couple in your marriage. One's thoughts and ways grow and change as we grow and change. "When I was a child, I thought like a child..."

The flexibility you speak of to do the things that are 'most meaningful' to you indicates your growth is continual and ongoing... you have it figured out Ron... thank you for sharing with us with such honesty.

[Loup Solitaire]

When you look to the heavens for a bright star to light your way, you shouldn't ask if it's male or female.

[Sandrine]

As a couple, my wife and I learned that a marriage can have a division of responsibility, but still have equality of respect and without dominance. Our relationship has grown better over the years. My wife's successes have become my successes. There are few disagreements. Concessions are easier on both sides. Although we are together, I always feel that I have a great deal of flexibility to do the things that are most meaningful to me.

Thank you Ron, your words are wise and kind, like balm to the soul ...

[Mario]

The quote by this individual is clueless arrogance at its absolute finest. This person can speak of the mind of Dr. Dahesh? Is he serious??? I mean really... come on dude, lighten up already. Let's take it one step further in the natural progression...does God himself speak directly to this person as well? Maybe he and Oral Roberts can compare notes... unbelievable.

I don't know David... Maybe... I know that when I met his sister, the first thing out of her mouth was "You should assist my brother...he is endowed with a mission to spread Daheshism..." right after saying to me "and why don't convice your cousin to marry him?"

Look... I need bring some levity here... I've never met any man who was so obsessed with getting MARRIED. I mean, forget having found his soul mate (according to him). The MARRIAGE HAD TO TAKE PLACE. NOW!!!

One would think he was... pregnant!

But, all of this was meant to remain private.

This matter had to become public when certain words were (allegedly) spoken by that man which forced the woman into submission, the result of which was that she resigned from her post and told her aging parents that she is leaving everything behind (which caused a lot turmoil for reasons only the woman herself should be allowed to speak about).

These words (it would seem) have always taken the Daheshist Mission as a pretext in order to manipulate the feelings of fear and culpability of the woman, and that in fact the Woman felt obliged to leave everything and come to America, because, supposedly, this is where HIS Mission is supposed to be.

Forget the fact that in the past he told the woman's mother —when she asked him if he could establish himself in HER country—that "anything is possible."

In the end, and just as she was ready to leave everything despite the enormous emotional destruction of a whole family (hey, after all, he IS a messiah) the guy told her that —over the weekend—he was planning a pleasant rendez vous with one of his former girlfriends, one whom he had proposed to (I have the rejection letter she sent him somewhere in my archives, please don't make me look!)

This flabbergasted the Daheshist woman who was living pure hell and was torn between her love for family, culture, country, and career (on the one hand) and the pressure caused by the ultimatum that he just happened to lay on her a couple of days before :

"I can't give you another year, you leave everything now ... otherwise that means we are not meant to be together. I need you here in America to accomplish my mission. And you don't realize that you too have a great opportunity to do great things for your mission. "

(Mario's note: As a matter of fact, that man, sipping tea in my house, standing up, said "I need her here with me for my psychological wellbeing. I can't complete my mission without her.")

OK, she's in the middle the biggest decision of her life, and he wants to meet with his ex...

Based on that, she asked him to reconsider. He refused, and, I hear, everything was HER fault. SHE was to blame. SHE misled him... You should HEAR the state in which she is...

Again, HIS choice HIS life ... whatever... I don't interfere in people's lives... But when Dahesh is evoked, Dahesh is used as a TOOL for fear... We become A CULT.

And THAT is EVERYONE's BUSINESS.

The real irony is that the same exact thing happened on the night that sealed my fate as far my relationship with this man.

He had lunch with his ex girlfriend... and the Daheshist Woman, sobbing, begged me to talk sense into him.

And so I did.

I don't have any regrets.

If I had to do all over again, I would do it in a Heart Beat!

Oh, and this is the SAME man who sent the message of hate about Daheshville... I forgot to mention that little titbit...Oh, and lastly, he is the ONLY man having access to the work of Ghazi Brax, who, frankly, given what HE said as well, makes me think MAYBE there IS a good reason the Trustees, despite being totally wrong about certain issues, are refraining from publishing his "revelations."

Now, before anyone judges ME as a traitor... Let me just say this: After what he did to ME, I could have easily sought revenge and sunk his business faster than the Titanic... All I had to do was "blow the whistle"... no pun intended...

Seriously, one the two lawyers I consulted asked "how come you are protecting him despite the fact he is trying to destroy you?"
I can show you the email in which I asked to lawyer to find ANY REASON for me NOT to blow the whistle on him.
See, I happen to be a Architect, and by law, as it turned out, I am bound to do certain things...

Luckily for him—and based upon the MEASURE OF THE EVIDENCE I discovered AFTER the "thing" happened WITHOUT my knowledge and WHILE I was STILL on the board of directors—I was under NO LEGAL obligation to report him.

As I was about to reply to his email (because my lawyer said to cut all contact with him until he investigates the matter) I received, via FEDEX, my official letter of termination... I was OFFICIALLY thrown out of a company I co-founded...

You might remember that in October of 2006, and after his conversation with Ghazi Brax, he told the Daheshist Woman to inform me that I was fired. Soon after, and without my knowleged, I was removed from the Board as VP and replaced. Anyway, on that night Ghazi claimed he almost died because of me (I swear, everything is my fault...) that's when she begged him to reconsider.

Later, he sent me an email giving me the choice to come back crawling to him... or resign... Well, as far as was concerned, when he took his sword out, that was it... And because I had JUST known about this "thing" I mentioned above... I called 2 lawyers, one government advocate and the guy who actually issues the architectural stamps, who in turn read me the rules.

The rules were clear... But, as I explained, luckily for him, there WAS a way out of this. And I chose the high road.

He sent a long letter to the Daheshist Sister's family about me... he defamed me in every way possible... He was even alleged to have said to Ghazi "can't a guy fire another guy because he can't get along with him?"

I can show you tons of emails where he is saying "Great" "Thank you!" etc. Again, I have 10 years' worth of email...Personal emails... What can I say, I like collecting email...

Anyway, I applied for unemployment. He evidently contested my application. The unemployment office scheduled a hearing to see if I was dismissed for "misconduct."

He was given a chance to be present. I hear the Fire Department scheduled a surprise visit on the same day. So... he was busy.

As for me, when the deputy asked me "Have you ever been put on report for insubordination?"

I said "I am sure. When the president of the company you co-founed and own a good percentage in decides he wants to publish a calendar featuring the art of a prison inmate in prison for life, for a crime we know nothing about... and insists on doing so, what would YOU do? I would do everything in my power to stop him. And I did. Of course, he then forced me to publish a calendar with Arab Horesmen holding rifles and we're in the middle of our War on terror! "

The deputy heard me without practically interrupting me for 40 minutes.

At the end, she said "well, the problem is that they are claiming that your position is no longer needed..."

OK, I must admit that I had prepared for every contigency except THAT one... Then, "LIGHT BULB" I began ruffling through my stack of papers..."FOUND IT!" I exclaimed.

In that email he sent me, he wrote something that contradicted what he claimed.

That's when the deputy said "APPROVED."

I said "and would you like me to tell you about the time he claimed I wanted to do a NUDE calendar for the business?" (That's what he told the Daheshist woman... under the guise of "Mario's vision is not appropriate for the company..."

She said "no thanks, no need ... you've been approved..."

People: first, let's put aside that I CREATED THE IMAGE for this company... TWICE....

How do we go from my offering I contact my MY HUGE MAILING LIST of artists who DRAW AND PAINT AND SCULPT THE HUMAN FIGURE so that THESE ARTISTS hear about the company in my upcoming newsletter, which then may help draw (much needed) business from figure artists BUYING our PRINTING services in order for them to PROMOTE THEIR ART... to... "Mario wanted to put naked women on our corporate calendar"...

The problem was that the saleswoman, as it turned out, didn't want to sell printing to Artists who created nude art..? WHY? Well, because she had a problem with nude art...

Meanwhile, she had no problem printing postcards for CAMP SAFE , including... condom wrappers... being printed... For those of you who don't know, CAMP SAFE is for gays...

Talk about having a GOOD intention twisted and turned against you like a dagger!

OK, so I publish a series for artists and that series features nudity...

THAT makes ME a evil person I suppose.

But you know what, I used to attend life drawing classes WHILE the Doctor was with me. Not once did he tell me "what are you doing!?"

Oh, and remember that ex girlfriend? Rumor has it she's doing the work in my place... Again, that's a rumor...

The Doctor wrote the following in Kalimaat: We need to fight the Tyrant when he is power, NOT AFTER he falls. As far as I was concerned, he was a tyrant. He used the law to his advantage. I had no contract with him and all his verbal promises to me are heresay.

Those (meager) unemployment checks are a reminder that JUSTICE will always win in the end. These checks may be meager, by they are worth a lot...

Of course, I hope this all stops here... This whole year has been murder on all of us.

He got finally rid of me... Good for him...

And I hope Ghazi Brax to be proud of his Protege. "THAT'S MY BOY!" he should tell him!

Oh the irony... and to think that when he lost "Dahesh.com" after rubbing it in the face of the Trustees, he told me, often "this is an aborted Mission!"

That's why Dahesh.org was created. He was invited to partake in its design, as I helped him design Dahesh.com. He didn't want that... I even offered him to take Dahesh.net which I owned. He didn't want that either.

When I insisted we sit and talk about Dahesh.org I offered to give him access to the site. He said "OK, but you have to let US do whatever we want and you can't interfere!"

"US?" ... "Not interfere?!"

Suddenly, it all became clear... All these years I was just a vehicle.

After all, he did say to me, over and over "I would work with the devil if it means completing my mission."

And to think I did everything in my power to pull him back from his depression, especially when that other woman turned down his marriage proposal. I have the emails...

It was unacceptable to me that he would fall behind as far as HIS mission.

But, as the facts come out, slowly, we will find out that he wanted me out of his life from the beginning.

Despite that, and despite the fact I felt he wanted me out of his life, I convinced him to wait before he marries a woman (I felt) he hardly knew (who lived in China) and I arranged for a meeting with what Ghazi Brax even referred to "a Diamond in the Rough."

Ghazi even claimed to have seen a dream in which the Doctor told him these two were meant to be together...

Aaaah... That's perhaps why our "friend" thought "Well, let me just do whatever I want and she will never leave... she won't have the guts to do so... "

Ironically, it was HE who rejected her in end because HE could NOT accept her terms that WERE a matter of life and health.

Mark my words "O'TOOL" you will never win... Because, when you compete against your own brother, you compete against yourself... I know you won't listen. If that Daheshist woman herself, whom you now accuse of having misled you, couldn't change you, no one can—except yourself.

Like I said to you on that historical night, "you can't win."

You tried to destroy Daheshville... And look at us... We're growing.
You tried to silence us... We're Talking...


Forget we exist and we'll gladly do the same where you are concerned, until the day you can say the following words: "I made a mistake, please forgive me."

Until then, please allow ME to say to you "FAREWELL!" and all the best with your Mission!

[Mario]

"Your understanding of spirituality and of Daheshism is not mainstream, nonetheless, it is your spirituality and you do what is right for you. I am certain the Doctor would disagree with many of your views...again, it is my opinion."

I have news for this guy: The Doctor would disagree on the idea of marriage—period. I mean, go read what he wrote.

Yes, true, nowhere does he say "do not get married."
But, his opinion about the sexual act were clear and downright ruthless.
(Please refer to the Genesis piece to understand why in the context of spiritual fluids etc.)

Yet, he established some guidelines for us follow... because evidently we need them. Therefore, we go from black and white to shades of gray.

But the rethoric of "O'TOOL" is black and white...
So, why not just remain celibate?

I know he also evoked things such as, and I paraphrase, "the Doctor would never accept that a man and woman live apart while married..."

What about fishermen... People who are in the army... People who live in submarines... I've seen many MARRIED Daheshists come the USA and LIVE with the Doctor, AWAY from their families, for LONG periods of time.

I remember telling this man the following: "don't rush anything, do NOT propose on the first day" (I said it!) ... etc. I think this became a contest... He had to win.

Remember that letter he sent to Darrick Evenson, in which he accuses Darrick of hijacking Daheshism?...

Even Ghazi Brax didn't agree with him on his approach. Neither did I.

After having dinner one evening, and after he had told me that he and the Daheshist Woman turned out to be similar in the way they think, etc. etc. (And I am thinking... wow... that was fast) and that in no time he would have her in the USA (ditto) The subject of Darrick came up and he would not accept that he did anything wrong.

Finally, he said: "and how do you know there wasn't a spiritual reason for what I did?"

[Johnson]

wow... let me try to put this in perspective for those of you trying to keep score at home:

This is a real life situation being played out in real time by real people that we love and care about. These are friends and family members that have had a long standing personal and (former) business relationship together...now they are being torn apart...and we care.

We all live in different states here in the U.S. and some even in different countries. We come here publicly and privately on Daheshville to discuss what is going on in our lives and what we are dealing with in the many facets within our lives.

None of us are in to 'exposing' the goings on of personal matters; we are not about any of that; although at times I know it appears things may be coming close. In fact, we have gone to great lengths to defend and protect innocent parties (identities and lives) that have been openly attacked (threatened or harassed) both here on line, as well as out in the 'real' world. I want to be clear with all of you reading this, and to the best of my ability to explain all this, why this discussion is being talked about so openly here in Daheshville.

Firstly, we have not named the primary player(s) in this sad saga. There are two sides (sometimes more, sometimes less) to every story and as such all involved parties are always welcomed (and encouraged) to participate here.

Much like in a sexual harassment suit, the principal offending parties have been in a position of power and the offended parties have been perpetually subjugated. That is number two.

Thirdly, the offending party has not only abused his 'power' in a business setting, he has now used his belief as a Daheshist and his vision of his 'mission' of spreading Daheshism to control and manipulate and ultimately emotionally destroy another and their family. He has invoked that he knows the wishes of Dr. Dahesh and that he knows what the Dr. would approve of or not approve of relative to someone else's life. This is a total emotional play for trying to control and manipulate the will and life of another...of the lowest order. The control this person has attempted to exert over another has hurt and pained and torn apart the wonderful life and family of the offended party.

The hurt he has served to others is all under his guise of 'this is righteous and in the name of helping my mission'!

This is wrong! THIS IS WRONG! And this is the very essence of what these ongoing threads are about. Daheshism is not a mission of controlling people, or subjugating people, or using one person's 'vision' to control another. There are not people here 'in the know' that have powers and visions that we should aspire to helping and subjugating ourselves to. NOT AT ALL!

I admire someone that has great aspirations for Daheshism... but only to a point. I can respect the new and somewhat over the top enthusiasm of someone's excitement for what they have newly discovered for themselves in Daheshism. I was probably much like this many years ago as I started to discover for myself the significance for me and my life in Daheshism. However, we are not SELLING Daheshism here! We are not proselytizing... we are not a cloistered cult! We do not invoke the name of Dr. Dahesh to control others... to get them to do our bidding... If one thinks they are doing good and proper work and at the same time need to exert their will (under whatever guise) over others... then they are WRONG! WRONG! WRONG! WRONG! I cannot be more clear on this.

Finally, regarding the person we are speaking about here, most importantly.... HE SHOULD KNOW BETTER! But alas, he does not. He is blinded by his 'duty'... this is fanaticism... this is wrong. We do not use what we know for our own bidding at the expense of others for 'their own good'. Ever.

Look people, Daheshism will 'spread'... with us, without us, in spite of us. We cannot stop it, we cannot make it something it is not. In fact, I do not even like the term or the notion that any of us 'spread' Daheshism at all. At best, what ANY of us can do, is fan the perpetual flame that is always burning. We are NOT THE SELLERS OR PURVEYORS of Daheshism. Daheshism frankly, does not NEED any of us... Daheshism is a blessing, a body of information that is FOR us. Not one of us owns the market on what Daheshism is now, nor what it will become. Not one of us, not a group of us, not ever.

However, are there parts that we can play? Yes! Absolutely! But the parts we play are for our own benefit...our own personal spiritual benefit... AND if only our intentions are, well, I will use the word 'pure'. Life is a system of merit. Not merit based just upon actions, but merit based upon the deepest subtleties of our innermost heartfelt intentions relative TO those actions. EVERYTHING counts! Apparent 'good deeds' without the proper, honest intent fall fallow.

This is what saddens me as I watch people I care about being hurt. Some of these people I have met, some I have known 20+ years, some I have never met. Some I love and care about through only talking to them here on Daheshville; some I only know through others that I deeply care about. These are the kinds of things that go on in real families... and each event is a sad one. I pray from my heart of hearts that there is healing and forgiveness all around... and understanding, and HARMONY, and UNITY. I hope we all can find compassion within ourselves... I hope the hurt can heal. The world is a pretty big sandbox... I trust we can all find a way to play nicely together.

[Sandrine]

This is what saddens me as I watch people I care about being hurt. Some of these people I have met, some I have known 20+ years, some I have never met. Some I love and care about through only talking to them here on Daheshville; some I only know through others that I deeply care about. These are the kinds of things that go on in real families... and each event is a sad one. I pray from my heart of hearts that there is healing and forgiveness all around... and understanding, and HARMONY, and UNITY. I hope we all can find compassion within ourselves... I hope the hurt can heal. The world is a pretty big sandbox... I trust we can all find a way to play nicely together.

Thank you so much for your beautiful words David ... you left me extremely touched and inspired ... Daheshville offers us the incredible privilege to live these kinds of rare and precious moments ... and to feel so many emotions...

We sometimes feel that being where we are, which is 7 years after "The Letter that shook the Daheshist World" (http://www.daheshville.com/forum/showthread.php?t=270), things are not getting any better ... and certain issues evoked in that letter seem to be chillingly prophetic!

It is probably time to appeal to Public Opinion because after all, as you said, Daheshism does not belong to any particular group, it belongs to everyone...

[Sandrine]

I know he also evoked things such as, and I paraphrase, "the Doctor would never accept that a man and woman live apart while married..."

What about fishermen... People who are in the army... People who live in submarines... I've seen many MARRIED Daheshists come the USA and LIVE with the Doctor, AWAY from their families, for LONG periods of time.

I have to admit that I personally like 'the bohemian artistic style of life' and I would never see myself imprisoned because of social conveniences or because of any kind of human hypocritical rules ...

Of course, I may appear quite unconventional but that does not mean I do not have moral values ...

I consider myself to be Daheshist from my youngest age.
I was 9 year old when I first met The Doctor and more than 32 years later ... I think I may have something to say about my life, my faith and my experiences ...

When a Daheshist man has the nerve to write to his fiancé - whom was supposed to be his 'spiritual wife' :

"...as long as I am alive, you are with me under one roof ...'

I think we are retrograding to the Middle Ages !

I personally do not think that living with your husband under the same roof is the most important thing...

Life is sometimes complicated and there are many circumstances that force you to make sacrifices and be separated from The One you love ... yes, this is hard but when you do love someone, nothing can really separate you from him/her ...

I personnally think that there is a problem when a man wants his wife with him - no matter what could be her own wishes - just because he is 'The husband' who would also use 'Biblical Laws' to justify that his vision is The Truth, and that he has rights on her wife ... I think this is manipulative and hypocritical ...

When someone is mixing 'ideas of respectability' with marriage and uses it to gain social standing ... to look 'normal' and to have 'a normal life' ... from my Daheshist understanding of things, I think I am hallucinating.

You cannot build anything upon the ruins of others ...

[Mario]

Since this HAS become a soap opera (minus the commercials) let's go all the way:

I feel responsible.

I believed him when, for years, he gave me the impression he was NOT like that. Seriously, why on Earth would I even say all the great things about him (and I meant every word) which lead to him, finally, FINALLY, to find (according to him) his "Soul Mate."

But then... wow... talk about a transformation. But, by then it was too late.

And, hadn't she begged me to talk sense into him that evening regarding his lunch with the woman whose name rhymes with "dawn"...

You know, this reminds me of that book "Daheshism and the Journey of Life."

The first three chapters, the author sets a tone of open-mindedness then, POW, just as he has gained your trust and you've let down your guard, he switches masks and ... even attacks modern music (which I ALWAYS felt was hyprocritical since he, himself, THAT author, whom YOU also met in person Sandrine, LOVES DISCO MUSIC in addition to classical music! OK, his reasoning is that Disco is "very classical"... Hey, whatever floats your boat, but don't you dare go knocking down modern music in writing when you, yourself, love Dicso Music!)

Nothing rubs the wrong way like someone who does things JUST so that they later say "Hey, I did my duty." Like this time our friend "O'TOOL" sent a message of sympathy to a Daheshist Brother who lost his sister in a terrible helicopter crash.

Once he sent the email he said "OK, I've done my duty."

He had zero respect or love for the guy. He even told me that the guy (A Doctor in Education and Professor at Columbia University no Less) once called his mother while being drunk and said all sorts of lude things...

Then again, his mother once totally acted as if I wasn't in front of her when I once ran into her in the clinic's waiting room (we lived in the same town).
I swear, I went up to her and said "Hello Mrs. so an so "

She turned her face around... I had to ask the nurse to let me out of the "exit" door so that I wouldn't run into her again.

And, what thanks do I get for having helped her son find his sould mate?

The first thing out of her mouth when she meets the Daheshist Woman are words against me... ? At least the woman had the courage to politely put a stop to it.

Maybe she imagined I called her as well... Like her son imagined I wanted to do a calendar of naked women for the business...

I swear... Some people are so sure of themselves that they instill doubt in you. I even called my photographer, a woman I've been working with for 10 years, and the Academic Dean of a photography school and I said to her... "is it possible that I might have seriously suggested something like that?" she said "NO"... I was still doubting myself, so I called my former Agent, and asked him "Sid, is it possible that I might have said that?"

Sid said: "Well, he called YOU a pornographer in front of me" (in fact, he used to say that to me often...jokingly of course... )

[Mario]

"Season Finale"

Oh, and years ago, we DID have a simpler version of Daheshville.

It took a lot of energy to convince one particular Daheshist sister—who had just survived a traumatic experience—to participate. And she did.

You might remember that I said earlier I worked hard to get "O'Tool" involved in Dahesh.org.

Well, he did. Finally.

The sister asks an innocent question (I have the archives, but I will paraphrase) "how about we each discuss how we became Daheshists" and her tone was nauseatingly sweet... but... remember, she was recovering emotionally... Everything was fine until "O'Tool" spoke...he gives a lecture about what she should and should not say... He, who has WRITTEN that he was a Daheshist, and PUBLISHED an article he had ASKED ME to write about HOW I BECAME A DAHESHIST.. was lecturing the Sister that she should not ask such questions...

Now... Granted... the sister should not have reacted the way she did. It was nasty... But, SHE APOLOGIZED in the end. But the then Daheshville was destroyed... O tool proved that Daheshville would never work... He never apologized.

Oh, you might be interested to know that he proposed to HER a few years back...He barely knew her and she of course declined politely. I know, because he asked me to approach her in 1995 and ask her hand in marriage for him...