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    Hello all,

    My name is Dan and I've been gathering information on Daheshism for a few weeks now. I thought it would be helpful to pose some of my questions to all of you in this forum to hopefully get some further clarification. I've read most of the posts on this site and have found them very informative.

    My religious background is Mormon, and although I am still currently practicing, my research into Mormon history has revealed to me that there have been significant changes to the church over the years and a number of doctrines have been altered or renounced giving me a general disillusionment with the current church leadership. During the course of my research I recently came across information on Dr. Dahesh (from a site put together by Darrick Evenson). I was struck by many similar beliefs also taught in Mormonism (especially early Mormonism) that are proclaimed by Daheshism but that I have never encountered in any other christian religion.

    I have been quite impressed with the Dahesh teachings that I have read so far, as far as I've understood them. I have also been very impressed by what I have read regarding the life and works of Dr. Dahesh. I've honestly never heard of anyone performing miracles of the type that he is said to have performed besides Jesus himself, and I have been fairly convinced by the testimonies of witnesses that I have read. However, miracles alone cannot be a proof of divinity since Jesus himself warned that there would come false prophets and false Christs who would show great signs and wonders and deceive even the very elect if that were possible. With that in mind, I have been evaluating Daheshism with cautious optimism.

    So far, I have found daheshist teaching to be quite in harmony with the scripture that I accept as revealed truth except on one particular point. My primary purpose for writing was to see if any of you could provide me with information that might reconcile this one contradiction for me which is the following:
    From what I understand, Daheshists believe that the reincarnation of Jesus as Dr. Dahesh (and possibly other incarnations) is what New Testament writers were referring to when saying that Jesus would "come again". However, in my understanding of the scriptures, it is said that Jesus' final advent would occur in quite a different manner than what can be seen in the life of Dr. Dahesh. To summarize, the scriptures seem to state that Jesus would return descending from the sky with a host of angels in a manner that would be apparent to both wicked and righteous. He would then judge the peoples of the world, the wicked would be cast into "hell" and the righteous would dwell on the earth with Jesus as he reigned for 1000 years (whether that is 1000 years as we measure them or not, I don't know).

    Please allow me to include now a number of scriptural references which seem to indicate the type of return that I just described, and please tell me how you would interperet them differently:

    Matt 16:27 "For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works"

    Matt 24:30-31 "And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
    31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other."

    Mark 13:26-27 (also Luke 21:27)"And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory.
    27 And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven."

    Matt 26:63-64 (also Mark 14:61-62)"But Jesus held his peace. And the high priest answered and said unto him, I adjure thee by the living God, that thou tell us whether thou be the Christ, the Son of God.
    64 Jesus saith unto him, Thou hast said: nevertheless I say unto you, Hereafter shall ye see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.

    Rev. 1:7 "Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen."

    Jude 1:14 "And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints"

    Dan 7:13-14 "I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him.
    14 And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed."

    Zech 14:9, "And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one"

    Rev 20:4-5 "And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
    5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection."

    Matt 25:31-46 (This is kind of a long one so I'll just include a link.)

    D&C 29:11 "For I will reveal myself from heaven with power and great glory, with all the hosts thereof, and dwell in righteousness with men on earth a thousand years, and the wicked shall not stand." (This is from a work called Doctrive & Covenants held to be scripture by Mormons which is composed mainly of revelations given to the founding prophet, Joseph Smith. I include it mainly because of its clarity although I don't expect you to be familiar with the work.)


    I would greatly appreciate any comments or explanations you have regarding these scriptures.

    Thank you very much
    Dan

  • #2
    Greetings Dan and welcome to Daheshville!

    Firstly, let me address your wise remarks regarding "cautious optimism."

    I once heard Doctor Dahesh tell a few stories in which he would try to convince his friends that certain "miracles" they (think) they saw performed (I don't remember the actual context) were pure charlatanism.

    Dahesh was a big fan of the ART of illusion. He in fact would purchase many such "packages" for the museum. Once even, and in front of me, a woman who is now on the board of directors of the Museum walked by me saying "great, I've got to learn how to do this magic trick and then show it to him!" (prop and all!) So, it was comical.

    However, he was dead against charlatans that claimed to have "powers" and he made it his business to be a debunker.

    For example, there was one instance where his friend swore to him that some "magician" performed a miracle which consisted of the following:

    The "magician" would put the huge lid of the equally huge pot of boiling water, recite incantations. Soon after a loud noise would be heard coming out of the pot... The lid would be removed... what do we see? Bones!

    Classic!

    Well, the Doctor went down there with his friend and said "show me"

    As the "magician" was just about to put the lid on when the Doctor said "Um, excuse me, but can you please turn over the lid?"

    To make a long story short... the lid was filled with wax encrusted with bones. The steam from the boiling water would soon loosen the bones.

    On on another occasion, he had to FLY to Sweden (I believe... again, this is based on what I heard HIM say circa 1979) with (I believe) Dr. Khabsa (his dearest and closest friend) to go to some institute for (alleged) paranormal studies to confirm what some "famous" magazine had written. As it turned out, neither the person cited in the magazine existed nor did the "institute" even engage in those types of studies. And, that whole thing started because Dr. Khabsa was CONVINCED that the article was true... And not EVEN the Doctor would dissuade him. So, that's why the Doctor had to show him that this was all fake. Well, in this case, he never even got the chance to challenge the claims in the article because the whole thing was made up in the first place... It's like trying to challenge some claims we read in the National Enquirer.

    And, here is another one he told me: while in India, he was watching a snake Charmer. I don't remember why exactly he did what I am about to describe to you, but he actually tackled the COBRA (grabbed it ) and showed the person with him that, in fact, the fangs were taken out.

    Of course, I had to be a smart mouth and say to him "but the snake wouldn't have bit you in the first place because, and according to your own words, the snake only bites those he is supposed to bite."

    To which he responded "yes, yes, I know that, but in this case the snake didn't have fangs"

    Plus, and as a kid, I witnessed two "debunking parties" during which the Doctor would invite ... everyone... to come and "cheer" and play along. The victim? Some poor guy or gal (hey, he did not discriminate) who might have called the house and told him "I have powers like you" to which he might have said "Oh, wow, wonderful, come over!" (and you can imagine the rest).

    I remember one instance, we were all faking being put into a trance by a young man who was called "Khalil" (who would later come clean and become a Daheshist and would move, I think, to Brazil. The Doctor actually like him. But he lost contact with him.)

    The funny thing about it is that Khalil himself would become so impressed with his newfound powers that you could see him shaking!

    And later, as my brother "C" was driving him back to his place (in fact, and by courtesy, the Doctor had him Chauffeured back and forth) he turns to my brother (now believing he REALLY had powers) and said "you know, if you like, I can make this car drive by itself."

    To really appreciate this moment, imagine a Robert DeNero character asked by a Ben Stiller character if he wished to have his car driven by the power of the mind...

    With regards to the other issue... As you know, in Daheshville we tell it as it is... and here, I'll make no exception:

    I once heard a Daheshist who was very close to Doctor Dahesh tell me the following:

    "The Doctor said to me that he and I would return in a 'space ship' and fly over the destroyed Earth and look at the destruction..."

    Chilling words indeed.

    She is still alive by the way. So, for now, and theoretically, we are all safe.

    Then, there is the Letter of Father Noah. Did you check out the last chapter, titled "And in the End."

    And, of course, I am sure you read the "Genesis according to Daheshism" thread...

    So, all of these taken together (and keeping in mind such movies as the Matrix) it is very likely that "the program will be rebooted" at some point... and that when this happens, there will be "fireworks."

    Then again, he told me "We will have a temple."

    What should that all translate to?

    Should we stop working? Caring about buying a house? Cancel our vacations?

    I don't think so.

    We keep on living as full and good a life as we each can. Everything matters. That contract sitting on desk that will make or break my ability to have income for the next year matters... because it is not the product, but rather the process. You could nurture a small plant and truly give it your heart and soul... and little known to you, in some remote and distant world you could never see, or hear (but perhaps sense) two nations would make peace...

    I hope my modest contribution was helpful.

    Mario
    Last edited by Daheshville; 11-22-2006, 01:36 PM.
    "Fail, to succeed."

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    • #3
      Hi Mario,

      Thanks for your reply. Do I understand correctly then that the scriptures which I cited of a final coming of Jesus refer to a time when Dr. Dahesh will return to this planet at or immediately following it's final destruction?

      Also, you mentioned that the end would be similar to "rebooting" and another civilization would begin, but in the Letter to Father Noah it mentions at the end that the earth would disintegrate and there would be a new heavens and a new earth. So for clarification, will this planet remain inhabited after the end and will our race continue to dwell here?

      I also noticed that the Letter mentioned that the Beloved Guiding Prophet would be taken from earth but that another guide would be sent. Has this other guide been identified?

      I have a few other questions.

      I have read about the Ramz and have been very intrigued. Is this the only manner in which Daheshists pray or do they also pray vocally or mentally? Also, are the kinds of miracles that were witnessed during the lifetime of Dr. Dahesh still being experienced by other Daheshists today through the use of the Ramz?

      There was mention of a physical city (Daheshville) that will be built as a place for Daheshists to gather. Has it already been determined where this city will be located? If so, where?

      To Daheshists, what is the purpose of baptism? Is this ritual necessary to reaching a higher world?

      Thanks,
      Dan

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      • #4
        Greetings Dan,

        You're most welcome.

        Do I understand correctly then that the scriptures which I cited of a final coming of Jesus refer to a time when Dr. Dahesh will return to this planet at or immediately following it's final destruction?

        If we were to believe what that one Daheshist woman said to me, then, yes, technically speaking, Dahesh would return to (in what shape, size, etc. I don't know...) in some sort of "ship" .

        I heard that another Daheshist was told by Doctor Dahesh that he (Doctor Dahesh) will see him in (I don't remember exactly how many) hundreds of years.

        Again, as far as I am concerned, I've heard these bits and pieces.

        By now, you might know about a book called "Memoir of a Dinar." In that book, the world was to end in 1995.

        One time, as he was staying with me, I asked him about that particular chapter and he smiled and said "that's just a story I wrote."

        I know some were not too happy I said that here and there was a heated debate.

        The Doctor did (supposedly) allude to the destruction of Earth. And one time (in fact) my brother said to him (sometime between the late 1970's and 1984), in reference to "Memoir of the Dinar" which talks about Hitler's son coming to power and blowing us all up:

        My brother "J" (allegedly) asked him: "Doctor, according to your story, the end will come at the hands of the Germans, whereas the common belief is that the USA and USSR would go to war."

        Then my brother added "the common belief is that communism is the big enemy"

        To which the Doctor (supposedly replied) "what makes you think that the Russia will always remain communist?"

        By the time Germany was united, I am pretty sure most Daheshists thought "that's it..."

        However, 1995 came and went... Nothing.

        Again, that proves that what the Doctor told me was factual.

        However, does that mean that there isn't danger lurking about?
        Does that mean that we are not headed for disaster?

        From what I've been able to pick up from here and there (and later from Father Noah's letter) Earth has been destroyed many, many times... and (to use my metaphor) the "system has been rebooted." I've heard that in some cases, Earth had reached far greater levels of scientific achievements than what we are currently seeing. Other times less.

        I've also heard (again from a select few Daheshists I believed would not make stuff up...) that, sometimes, and because the spiritual level of Earth as a whole has reached such a low point, the destruction comes as an act of mercy (so to speak) as to to prevent it from "falling" any further.

        With regards to the following question:

        Also, you mentioned that the end would be similar to "rebooting" and another civilization would begin, but in the Letter to Father Noah it mentions at the end that the earth would disintegrate and there would be a new heavens and a new earth. So for clarification, will this planet remain inhabited after the end and will our race continue to dwell here?

        Answer: I can't answer that question because I simply don't know. I can make educated guesses, and Hollywood has certainly created enough movies that would inspire us to do so (personally, I think some directors are inspired...) I mean, let's look at it "logically":

        If everything is made of "void" (which it is), and therefore this is all an illusion, then, logically, everything our human eyes sees is tied to this illusion.

        Here, think about this: You died God knows how many times already, and you've been reborn. No, I am not talking metaphorically. I am talking about you (and I, and everyone) one day "waking up" into another dimension. Let's stick to this one (Earth) for now.

        Do you remember, therefore, where, what, or who you were?

        No. (With all due respect to Shirley MacLaine)

        You might have some "sense" about certain things... For example, you go to a place and you feel a kinship. Why? Or, you meet someone, you become friends... for life... or so you thought... again, why?

        In each case, you were in one reality and then you "shifted" into another.

        So, whether there would be a new Earth and OUR race versus a new type of environment with ... let's say... a cross between apes and reptiles... who knows...

        I can't tell you how many people I've met who don't live the moment... always living in the Future... at the expense of messing up all their human relationships... for the sake of ... "Duty" or some "grand mission" they feel they have to fulfill.

        I've seen the Doctor up close. If he can wake up smiling despite all the physical pain he was in, take the time to tease me by throwing an eraser at me (so that I would wake up as well) and then go into the kitchen, take a head of lettuce (remember, this the THE PROPHET), wash it under really hot scalding water for a few seconds, whilst he goes "ouch, ouch, ouch!" then run cold water to cool it down, then open the fridge and (just like you and I) look and see what's good to eat, grab the cheeze, the onions, the tiny pickles, the olives, put it all on the kitchen counter, then say "you know what we need?" and I would say "what, Doctor?" "Sardines!"... they sit and enjoy a meal... then, go back in to the bedroom and tackle the mountain of newspapers he had on the table... then call this person, and that person, then take the time to entertain this or that person... and so on and so forth... all leading to my helping him into bed, whilst he performed a couple of miracles... I mean, where WOULD that cologne bottle come from? Or whatever else would appear in his hands out of thin air... then immediately disappear before I could grab it, as he giggled like a little boy...

        If the PROPHET can do that, then we surely can as well. ( I am referring to enjoying the moment...not taking it for granted...)

        Bottom line, everything matters. It's not just the end product but the process. And the end never justifies the means.

        Why am I saying all this? Well, you mention the "GUIDE"

        I also noticed that the Letter mentioned that the Beloved Guiding Prophet would be taken from earth but that another guide would be sent. Has this other guide been identified?

        Before I get into that, let's go back to the actual document and read what is written.

        The document clearly states that this Guide is none other than THE SPIRIT of our own Beloved prophet, who, from his lofty place or gathering (here I paraphrase) will assemble us.

        In other words, it is not necessarily a person.

        It might be a ... "feeling."

        Take "Randa" for example... Take Darrick... Take "Dan"... (to name a few people) why are they here?

        I believe there is an inner voice bringing us together. I am not saying we're all going to meet up at some rendez vous point and board a ship... Well... maybe... But that's not what I am saying.

        I am referring to the meeting of the hearts and minds.

        What does it matter if you and I are in the same room? Isn't the Web as powerful a tool as meeting face to face? Sure, meeting would be great. But if you had to choose between meeting once every blue moon and staying in contact via the web, which would you choose?

        And, here, I will jump onto this issue of a physical city:

        There was mention of a physical city (Daheshville) that will be built as a place for Daheshists to gather. Has it already been determined where this city will be located? If so, where?

        To be fair, the Doctor never uttered the words "Daheshville" before me. He once said (right after he performed an incredible miracle... which I can describe to you later... if you like...) "I wonder if Reagan would give us a piece of Land onto which to build our city?"

        I didn't even answer (long story...) and I thought "suuuure he will"

        As I was leaving the bedroom, he said "Do you know, sir, that we are going to have a Temple?"

        As for the name "Daheshville"... that, I heard from other people close to him.

        I have read about the Ramz and have been very intrigued. Is this the only manner in which Daheshists pray or do they also pray vocally or mentally?

        As for the Ramz... I know that is the "official" method of praying. I tend to look upon it as ... "email"

        In other words, you write a certain way (coding) you fold a certain way (compression) and you burn (Upload). Daheshists are to do this twice a day (and I maintain that it is twice, no more!) , and there are certain specific times... Why would that be?

        Well, I've heard from my brother that the Sun was... like a ... Sentinel... So, it might have to do something with the transfer of energy... who knows... Well, let me rephrase that... "Mario does not know."

        Then we get to the vocal prayers...

        While I've never HEARD the Doctor mention anything about praying vocally, nor did I see him pray vocally (I have seen him burn his Ramz, and he's even asked me to burn a Ramz for him... so, there was quit a few Ramz burnt while I was with him)

        HOWEVER...

        On one occasion, he asked my brother to keep repeating a prayer to himself until he got home. On that day, my other brother escaped grave injury during a terrible car accident.

        He DID write a book of Prayers.

        He DID ask us to READ certain passages during his funeral, one being, of course, the famous "Prayer of the Beloved Guiding Prophet."

        And, in INNOCENT IN CHAINS the NOTES, we see him lift his prayers to the Lord.

        All that tells me that praying (and really MEANING IT) matters.

        Also, are the kinds of miracles that were witnessed during the lifetime of Dr. Dahesh still being experienced by other Daheshists today through the use of the Ramz?

        Positively and categorically no. I am not saying miracles don't happen everyday... But THOSE kinds? No...

        To Daheshists, what is the purpose of baptism? Is this ritual necessary to reaching a higher world?


        I can't answer the question about baptism and I am almost afraid to comment on whether or not this ritual is necessary...

        Oh, alright, I'll comment

        If rituals alone mattered... then a lot of "baptized" people are going to heaven despite the fact they are downright unworthy.

        God is not about technicalities. Here, take me for example: to read some of the comments made about me by some people, I am the last person you should be talking to. And guess what, I have not been baptized as a Daheshist. In other words, the Doctor NEVER came to me and said "you've gotta get baptized."

        In fact, here is a story you might enjoy: You've probably heard about the famous special Ramz that one would do for 30 straight days, and during which one would ask (not for a spiritual aid but) for spiritual session... That's ... an extended miracle and revelations galore session... that is TRULY Hollywood worthy. One of my brothers had the distinct pleasure of seeing one.

        So, for a Daheshist, a Spiritual Session is THE event to MERIT.

        Anyway, one day, after this person and that person said to me "what? you've NEVER done a spiritual session ramz? Are you crazy? The DOCTOR IS HERE, you're SO lucky to have him here... GO and do it NOW ... Do you know HOW many would KILL to be in your shoes etc.?"

        Truth be told, and I don't want to get into it here, as I am sure I covered this somewhere else... I was always afraid to bother him. In fact, so much so, that I RARELY called HIM to ask how he was doing. HE always called me. I called him ONLY because he would have asked me (for example) to give him daily reports etc.

        Anyway, he was staying in Connecticut at the time, I was there, and I went upstairs and knocked on the door. There was a woman sitting in the room. I sort of gave her, after I gave up on her getting the hint I needed to speak with him ALONE, the signal to... please leave. Wow... Imagine that...

        Anyway, I went up to him and said "Doctor... I wanted to ask about the spiritual session"

        He shook his head, smiled, flipped gently his hand and said something in Arabic (DUH, of course!) which I really can't translate into words. I'd have to act it out for you.

        But, the message was clear: I didn't need to worry about it. And I never did after that.

        However, I would never dare say to anyone "don't worry about it."

        What applies to me doesn't necessarily apply to others, and vice versa.

        The rituals (in my opinion) by themselves mean little.

        Rituals are important. Actions are important. So are intentions...thoughts... and a whole bunch of "stuff."

        I'll take an unbaptized kind person over a baptized megalomaniac everyday.

        I'll even take a baptized kind person... GOOD FOR THEM.

        I would do EVERYTHING I can to make sure one day ALL THOSE who wish to be baptized, can do so.

        However, and here is my worry: the clergy... who just loves to team up with money... to control people...

        Have you read SPIRITS REBELLIOUS by Kahlil Gibran? (Note to French and Arabic speaking readers: In the USA, his name is spelt "Kahlil") the book's ISBN 0785810706

        Here is the online version. I recommend reading KHALIL THE HERETIC
        http://www.kahlil.org/spiritslppf

        Why... Well, when you mentioned "Baptism" you made me think of John the Baptist, the FORERUNNER of Christ.

        In this "cycle" (and I am not sure if you know this little tidbit) Kahlil (or Khalil) Gibran was the Forerunner of Dahesh.

        Gibran had a spriritual fluid from Dahesh in fact...

        I hope I was able to assist this evening, and thank you once again for participating—and for giving me the opportunity to share what (perhaps) little I know.

        Mario
        Last edited by Mario; 11-28-2006, 12:05 PM. Reason: I left out an important word with reference to the GUIDE... Sorry! I meant write "the SPIRIT" of our own Beloved prophet.
        "Fail, to succeed."

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        • #5
          Hello again,

          i would like to ask a few more questions.

          First, I've been wondering about how Dr. Dahesh supported himself financially. It seems that he must have had significant means at his disposal to maintain his residence, collect artwork and literature from around the world, and travel extensively. I don't suppose this is terribly important, but it is a curiosity I have wondered about.

          A question of more significance is: Who or what is God? Is God the same as the Christ spirit or sayyal? Or is the Christ spirt what is also known as the Holy Spirit to Christians? When Daheshists speak of God, is this the same being that Muslims call Allah or that Jews call Jehovah?

          I appreciate and clarification you can give.

          Thanks,
          Dan

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          • #6
            Answers to Questions from Dan

            Dan,

            1) Dr. Dahesh published 150 books, which He made money from. He was once asked what He did for a living, and He replied that He wrote books, but He never had a real job, and that, at times when He needed money, He could simply reach inside His pocket and pull out 5 Lebanese liras (at the time about a day's salary for a laborer), and He said that He would never receive more than He was able to live on for that day. But, in later years, after His many books were published and sold, He got a lot of money, and, at His death, I believe He was worth about 5 million dollars; that including His bank account and collection of 200,000 books and hundreds of pieces of art. I believe this interview can be found on the site http://www.daheshism.com


            2) An explanation of God is found in Lights Upon Dr. Dahesh and Daheshism by Dr. Ghazi Brax. I believe I sent you a copy of it. Did you receive it? Basically, Dr. Brax wrote that Daheshists don't try to "fine tune" an explanation of God, other than what the Scriptures have already said, to do that would only lead to confusion, to try to understand the Un-understandable, and that God is beyond Human Reason to understand more than what the Bible and Qur'an has already declared.
            Darrick

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Dan View Post
              Hello again,

              i would like to ask a few more questions.

              First, I've been wondering about how Dr. Dahesh supported himself financially. It seems that he must have had significant means at his disposal to maintain his residence, collect artwork and literature from around the world, and travel extensively. I don't suppose this is terribly important, but it is a curiosity I have wondered about.

              A question of more significance is: Who or what is God? Is God the same as the Christ spirit or sayyal? Or is the Christ spirt what is also known as the Holy Spirit to Christians? When Daheshists speak of God, is this the same being that Muslims call Allah or that Jews call Jehovah?

              I appreciate and clarification you can give.

              Thanks,
              Dan
              Originally posted by Darrick Evenson View Post
              Dan,

              1) Dr. Dahesh published 150 books, which He made money from. He was once asked what He did for a living, and He replied that He wrote books, but He never had a real job, and that, at times when He needed money, He could simply reach inside His pocket and pull out 5 Lebanese liras (at the time about a day's salary for a laborer), and He said that He would never receive more than He was able to live on for that day. But, in later years, after His many books were published and sold, He got a lot of money, and, at His death, I believe He was worth about 5 million dollars; that including His bank account and collection of 200,000 books and hundreds of pieces of art. I believe this interview can be found on the site http://www.daheshism.com


              2) An explanation of God is found in Lights Upon Dr. Dahesh and Daheshism by Dr. Ghazi Brax. I believe I sent you a copy of it. Did you receive it? Basically, Dr. Brax wrote that Daheshists don't try to "fine tune" an explanation of God, other than what the Scriptures have already said, to do that would only lead to confusion, to try to understand the Un-understandable, and that God is beyond Human Reason to understand more than what the Bible and Qur'an has already declared.
              Darrick
              Were there times when money literally appeared from thin air? Yes, and I witnessed it. More cash than I've seen in envelope that's for sure. But, I've also seen it dissappear as soon as it appeared. The moral being: it is easy for God to produce money (out of thin air) for his prophet. However, that would have been the easy way.

              All I can tell you is that Doctor Dahesh did what normal, law abiding citizens would normally do in order to raise money to accomplish his task.

              Regarding the question of GOD: yes, trying to understand the "Un-understandable" can lead to confusion, if you are not willing to spend the required effort and time... No, I am not saying that in the end you will understand... Instead, you will reach inner peace. Everything will be "clear"... you will "trust" ... This is based on my own experience of course.

              Like most believers, I even considered the idea of asking questions to be blasphemous... Then, one day, I found myself giving a lecture in MIT, and I was challenged...

              History will show that religious leaders (I am referring to those who are NOT PROPHETS) typically (as in "more often than not") prefer it when people do not think for themselves or ask questions.

              The Doctor was staying with me in NYC when I once asked him about the nature of GOD. He smiled and replied that not even the prophets know.

              He never said "you should not ask such questions!"

              Based on what the Doctor has told me, whatever anyone might say, think, or theorize as far as the nature, substance, composition, and form of GOD will always be pure conjecture.

              In other words, the Doctor might as well have told me "no one will ever know" and that would certainly include scientists.

              Yet, the Doctor himself went to great lengths in order to leave a mountain of information, all of which (in my opinion) are designed to make us think for ourselves and embark on our individual rites of passage, all leading (hopefully) to the following epiphany: that we don't know, we will never know, yet we BELIEVE.

              The counter argument is of course: "if you need a rite of passage in order to firmly plant your belief, then you are not worthy, blah, blah, blah... "

              My answer, in that case, would be the following: It is important to know WHY we believe... and that we believe NO MATTER what... We must put our belief to the test. For if we don't do it, someone else will!

              Bottom line: we need to know we "got there" on our "own merit!"

              Plus, in this day and age, in order for a Daheshist to communicate his or her faith to a person on the outside they can't simply repeat scriptures and claim that they can prove this or that citing (for example) Miracles. If that was the case, the Doctor himself wouldn't have said that it took him 20 years to "teach" Daheshism to a person. It's all in the subtleties.

              There is definitely something missing when it comes to saying "that's the way it is" without showing that we have EARNED the right to say that—at the very least, that is.

              What does that mean in practical, everyday terms?

              Education.

              Reading about physics, psychology, etc. and spending (possibly) years pondering the same questions many of the great physicists and philosophers pondered... thus... putting ourselves in their shoes... before reaching what I like to call (simply) "inner peace" about the whole thing.

              Here, let me give you an example:

              A Daheshist or any believer in GOD (as the CREATOR who knows all things past, present AS WELL AS FUTURE) does not question the paradoxical aspect of our relationship with GOD.

              "Paradoxical aspect? What paradoxical aspect? What blasphemy is this?"

              How can we reconcile the concept of a creator who is omnipotent, yet allows us freedom of choice?

              To have free will, by definition, means that we (as human beings) can put GOD in a reactive mode. Isn't that right?

              In other words, how can my creator tell me that I can choose to do whatever I want, and yet, once I've made my choice, he shows me that he knew all along what my intentions were?

              Or, how can my creator reveal a prophecy which says that (for example) in 10 years, I will do such and such a thing (despite all my attempts to achieve the contrary?) How can this be called "free will?"

              OK, perhaps we can argue that, due to my actions in another dimension (a.k.a. Incarnation) I sealed my fate as far as this particular reincarnation is concerned and that, try as I may, the prophecy will be fulfilled and my knowing about it is merely to punish me and while showing the power of GOD—in other words, not only would I be punished, but I would be made an example of.

              But what about the concept that Daheshists believe in and which basically states that GOD decides it is their time to die.

              Yet, they look both ways before crossing the street, and take all reasonable measure to prevent illness, et so on...

              Plus, Daheshists believe that their time on Earth can be reduce or extended depending on some variables (their actions for example).

              Yet, ask any Daheshist if they believe that GOD knows when they are going to die, why, and how, and WHERE they would reincarnate and with who etc..., their answer would be a resounding "YES!"

              Basically, DESTINY and CAUSALITY coexisting harmoniously?

              That's the paradox. For some odd reason, very few seem to notice its existence... and perhaps that is their blessing.

              Personally, I don't think human beings can ever resolve or reconcile the two parts of the equation and I personally—and simply—accept that, this is the way it is.

              But, if someone were to challenge my belief on the basis of ... say... lack of logic, and while I could never prove I am right, I can nevertheless point out what has been discovered in (for example) physics until today.

              Anyone who really dabbles in physics knows that... in the final analysis... we don't really know who things work.

              Yes, we have detected, isolated, defined, and applied formulas and methods. But we still don't know WHY certain things are the way they are.

              For example, why is the force of Gravity so weak when compared to the other forces in nature.

              Incidentally, that investigation is leading into further study of the mathematical probability our universe being ACTUALLY comprised of more that the now accepted/proven 4 dimensions (the 4th dimension being "TIME" which in no absolute, and the associated "distortions" that occur due to the fact TIME is not an absolute entity. And, in a world where time is not absolute, 2 people can witness 2 different versions of the same event/reality and they will be BOTH right. Of course, one of them will have to be traveling at or near the speed of light)

              Anyway, with all these "Dimensions" actually existing, a lot of things can be then explained... but never to the extent we could figure things out 100%

              However, that should not prevent us from appreciating the journey that will eventually lead to ... inner peace.

              By the way, I must have been 17 years old, when in Beirut, Dr. Fareed Abusleiman told me (ever so softly... almost whispering) that we are all part of GOD and the ultimate goal is to be ONE with GOD. In other words, think of yourself as a "runaway" frequency... or wave... or particle... etc. and you broke away from the "COLLECTIVE" and ... here you are... in this Dimension... far, far away from home (so to speak). The goal is to get back home.

              Imagine that beautiful image... each one us belonging to GOD and a part of GOD. Perhaps, that is why it has been written that GOD made man in his image?
              Last edited by Daheshville; 01-10-2007, 08:54 PM.
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              • #8
                ...

                Hello,

                I appreciate the answers to my previous post, but I think I need to rephrase my questions a bit.

                I have read most of Lights Upon Dr. Dahesh and noticed that it was stated that Daheshists refrain from speculating on the incomprehensible nature of God. I was not expecting to get details on the attributes or form or substance of God.

                In Mormon belief, our Father in Heaven is known as Elohim (indicating gods in the plural). His "son" is Jehovah who communicated with prophets in Old Testament times and who incarnated as Jesus. Only on a few occassions has Elohim acted directly on earth such as at the baptism of Jesus when a voice was heard saying "Behold, my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased." For the most part, Jehovah/Jesus acts as an intermediary executing the will of Elohim.

                In asking my question previously, I was hoping to get an answer that would tell me if this belief is accurate when viewed in light of the teachings of Dr. Dahesh. Please share with me your comments on this.

                Also, what does Daheshism teach regarding Satan; what is his origin and his relationship to God and to the Christ spirit? Is he a single individual or multiple entities? Did he fall to earth with the rest of us? What was his status before becoming Satan?

                I also have a few questions regarding the practice of Daheshism. First, are there any foods that are prohibited such as in the teachings of Judaism or Islam?

                Second, I've read some remarks regarding fasting but have a few more questions. Is there any prayer or ritual used to initiate a fast or end one? Is there any particular significance to the 6th and the 20th of each month which make them the fast days? Is it the 6th and 20th of the months of the Gregorian calender or the calendar used traditionally in the Middle East or does it even matter?

                Thank you,
                Dan

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                • #9
                  That is why—perhaps—the Doctor said often (and as quoted by my own brother) that it took him 20 years of teaching, patience, and example (etc.) to make someone a Daheshist. If it was just a matter of reading a book or a pamphlet...

                  Humans evolve (typically). For example: as a kid, could you have comprehended the idea of how you were conceived? No. That is why (I am assuming) you might have been told "the Stork" brought you...

                  I am sure what you read is correct. So is Newtonian Physics... but even that was proven not practical when "Man" needed to compute when a space capsule needed to rendez-vous with the moon.

                  Nothing in what I am saying is actually contradicting what you read. While some will absolutely, and categorically abstain from pondering some ideas, others will go on their own rite of passage.
                  Perhaps so that, one day, they can return right where they started with (once again) a sense of inner peace—so that they don't end up prosyletizing...and inciting a riot...

                  I mean, did you read the recent hub-bub about "our friend?"

                  Anyway...

                  About the issue of Satan. I know that in Daheshism we believe in the existence of the infernal worlds... Are there "actual" demons with "actual" horns, etc.?

                  I have no idea. However, Doctor Dahesh, who asked me to illustrate 8 very important images for his book THE INFERNO OF DOCTOR DAHESH certainly gave me THAT metaphor to follow.

                  But, what does it matter what "Satan" actually looks like...

                  Does he exist? From what I have gathered from here and there, absolutely.
                  However, no entity from ANY infernal realm (or otherwise) CAN do ANYTHING unless it is MANDATED to do so.

                  Of course, you, I, and just about everyone living on this planet (which is situated midway between "Heaven and Hell" HAVE links to infernal levels, and that is WHY we have these inner struggles, we are tested, we are "pushed" to hate and lash out (etc.) so that (in the end) we FEED that energy. In other words, ever nanosecond, you're releasing energy. Where is it going? Well, based on you behavior, you're either "feeding" the upper levels or lower ones.

                  Check out this thread and look for "GENESIS — THE DAHESHIST VERSION"
                  http://forum.daheshville.com/showthread.php?t=29

                  It might also shed some light.

                  As to the issue of "In Mormon belief, our Father in Heaven is known as Elohim (indicating gods in the plural). His "son" is Jehovah who communicated with prophets in Old Testament times and who incarnated as Jesus. Only on a few occassions has Elohim acted directly on earth such as at the baptism of Jesus when a voice was heard saying "Behold, my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased." For the most part, Jehovah/Jesus acts as an intermediary executing the will of Elohim.

                  I recently posted a summary of a dream Doctor Dahesh had, where he saw CHRIST talking to all his spiritual fluids (the prophets). Did you check it out? Here it is. Please see my response to Sonic. Again, these are answers based on whatever ACTUAL info I have (versus educated guessing)

                  http://forum.daheshville.com/showthread.php?t=217

                  In terms of fasting: the 6 is supposed to honor the SIX PERSONALITIES and the 20 , the FLUID NUMBER TWENTY (and if you read my link above, you'll understand more about Fluid 20)

                  There are no restrictions of foods as far as I know. The Doctor himself liked or didn't like certain foods. BUT, I HEARD HIM SAY to someone who was very picky about what to eat... "One should eat everything"

                  And, by that, he meant "everything in moderation" (If I dare summize).

                  There are NO mandatory or special prayers. In fact... NOTHING is MANDATORY... OK? It's done because we want to do it.

                  That being said, a Daheshist is "mandated" to burn the Symbol twice per day. NO MORE. There are plenty of discussions about THAT subject here...
                  But to recap, once at 6 am (or between 6 and 12 noon) then another at 6 pm (or between 6 and 12 midnight as Hussein had added).

                  Listen, Daheshism is as much about what we feel and think as much as about what we do. In other words, no need to fast if one is going to complain...

                  I heard the Doctor say that "no need to fast if you're sick"

                  Also, once he offered me something to eat and I said "I can't, I am fasting"

                  he replied "you'll fast another day."

                  He didn't say which... just "another day."

                  I hope this helps.

                  Good night,

                  Mario

                  PS. Oh... About the calendar... It's the kind we purchase at Borders or Barnes and Noble

                  Last edited by Daheshville; 01-25-2007, 06:18 PM.
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                  • #10
                    Hello.

                    First, I'd like to let you know, Mario, that I truly appreciate the insights and experiences that you are so willing to share. I certainly consider it a great advantage to have an aquaintance with first-hand knowledge of the life and teachings of Dr. Dahesh.

                    I've read some other posts where you speak of your past experiences with the Dr.. I've been curious about how you were initially introduced to Daheshism and then later what the circumstances were that led you to become a close associate of Dr. Dahesh. If you could describe those events I would appreciate it.

                    I also have some questions about "Brother Ali" that I was hoping you could clarify for me. So is "Brother Ali" the 20th fluid? Could the Dr. never remember what had occured while "Brother Ali" was acting through him? Were all miracles performed while "Brother Ali" was the dominant consciousness, or did the Dr. perform miracles as well while acting under his own will? Were the writings attributed to Dr. Dahesh also written with "Brother Ali" as the acting force, or were they written by the Dr. himself?

                    Thanks and God bless.

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                    • #11
                      Hello Dan,

                      I am of course honored by your kind remarks.

                      As far as my introduction to Daheshism the events that would lead to finding myself in such close proximity to Doctor Dahesh: it is a rich tapestry woven with timing, circumstance, hopes and dreams, frustration and yearning, involving many people, each of whom played an important role (willingly or otherwise). I'll perhaps start with the "genesis" of "Mario goes to Daheshville" and we see how it goes from there... Mainly because, once I start telling the story... I might never stop!

                      Let's start with the context: this is where I grew up. This shot was taken after the "Battle of the Hotels" and that's where we were for 13 days. The Doctor and the Daheshists (including my brothers) where up a few blocks, in front of another "Towering Inferno" (Click image to see larger version. Broadband recommended... Image is about 1.8MB)





                      And, if you're read (or heard of) my brother's book (in French), that's pretty much the way Beirut was when he was telling his memoirs. Note the "Swimming Club" (Bain Francais). That's where he had a fight (and kicked the falafels out of) a snotty kid, whose father was in fact responsible for Dahesh's capture and toruture in 1944 (see "Innocent in Chains—the notes") and who would one day become president of Lebanon and order the capture of the 3 Daheshists I talked about in "I once called a traitor brother" (and, just in case I was NOT Bain Francais but AJRAM's club, that would then be the one right adjacent to it, to the RIGHT) Of course, my brother had NOT yet met Dahesh... it would be years, I believe before he would... And, as another point of interest, all my brothers were growing up in Aleppo Syria when the Doctor would be dragged there and thrown in the frightening jail...




                      But that's not the brother who would bring me into Daheshism.

                      I was the youngest of 5 boys and the age difference between myself and the oldest was rather considerable.

                      Meet my brother "C." How can I describe him to you... And before I do, please know I haven't seen him in years... and even when I would see him it would be for very short periods of time. So, whatever memory of him I have is "from the old days" when I saw him (practically) every day as we all lived in that apartment on London Street which is perpendicular to Phoenicia Street, famous for its hotels, restaurants, bars and cabarets.

                      Also right next door to me, rose the mighty walls of the Collège DE LA SALLE, the Catholic School I attended, whose strict discipline was the stuff of legends. However, on the occasional short school field trip to the beach nearby, not even the most seasoned of disciplinarians could prevent young and impressionable boys from breaking formation, thus risking life and limb (otherwise know as detention) in order to get a closer look at the seemingly endless procession of semi-nude promotional photos featured in the display windows of the Crazy Horse, Kit Kat, and Lucky Luke Clubs!

                      In hindsight, I wonder why the teachers never took the side streets...


                      You might be interested to know that while most kids had a puppy for a pet, I got a macaque monkey... and, with all the stage acts happening around the neighborhood, featuring seals (kept in a nearby trailer) and chimpanzees (one which actually ran away and terrorized the neighborhood), who needed to run away to join the circus in the first place? It was practically parked in our backyard.

                      We were a very tightly knit neighborhood. Sometimes at night, I would direct my "Super 8" projector onto the building next door, and the kids from the neighboring building would view Charlie Chaplin movies!

                      It was a vibrant and loud place... So loud, that my brothers (and sometimes my dad) would race down the street to "quiet-down" a drunken bar patron who had the misfortune of cursing at my brother "C" who always started out asking the neighborhood drunks to "please, keep it down..."

                      The Chakkours were famous... You never messed with them... Blame it on my sweet mother. Legend has it that when the "four of them" came back, clothes torn and all beaten up one too many time (it WAS a tough neighborhood) my mom had a genius idea to solve the problem once and for all: Firstly, SHE finished off the job that the street gang began... Secondly, she said "the next time these thugs jump on you, you defend yourselves... I don't ever want to see you come back crying! I don't care if you don't win! You defend yourselves!!!" I am not making this story up for I have heard it from my mother a gazillion times.

                      So, that brings us to my brother "C." Think "The Chairman of the Board," DeNiro, and "The Fonz" all together. Very charismatic but understated.

                      No, I am not kissing up to him... I assure you, I was deathly afraid of him. He was also my role model... But that's for the autobiography...

                      Also, his "persona" was evidenly very convenient for a lot of mothers who wanted their kids to keep quiet while visiting the Doctor's house... "If you don't behave, I'll tell "C" on you!"

                      Poor "C"... I actually heard him say to someone "this is getting old, all these kids are afraid of me, I have to tell these moms to stop using me as their tool..."

                      Anyway, now we come to what sparked my "inner light" as far as Daheshism is concerned...

                      When you see a tower of power who puts the fear of GOD in you simply by looking at you, pick up the phone, dial, and lower his voice is utter respect when speaking to the person on the other line... a person he referred to as "Docteur" (Doctor in French), THAT makes you wonder... "WHO IS THAT MAN ON THE OTHER SIDE?!"

                      I must have been around 4 years old when I began to hear "Docteur..." often... Then I would hear "Dahesh..." mentioned... in secret... because of our father...

                      Then, one day, I go into my brothers room and reach under the matress and pull out a book that my brother "C" was hiding under it. It was "REPOSE OF DEATH" (although, in those days, I couldn't read to save my life...) and the book fascinated me. I would "borrow" it often, and gaze with wonder at it... and it was that book, which I "borrowed" from "C" whose "transformation" I witnessed when speaking with "Docteur"... that began to make me feel a yearning for something I didn't understand.
                      Then, there would be conversations between C, and the others about "Miracles."... See, the great thing about being that much younger is that you become invisible. So I absorbed...

                      Keep in mind, I also believed in Jesus... and in Santa Claus. In fact, I stayed up one night, waving at the sky, in the hope he would steer his sleigh my way (thanks Dad for the tip!)...

                      I'll stop here and answer (as always) to the best of my abilities:

                      No, I don't think Brother Ali was the Fluid 20. Brother Ali is "Gabriel" (as I was informed by a Daheshist). Brother Ali was responsible for saving my life one, and as far as I know, all the miracles we saw the Doctor perform were the work of Brother Ali. And, as far as I know, the Doctor never knew what was going on. Although the Doctor might have had instructions to have do something at a particular time (or he would even perform what certainly looked like a pre-scheduled miracle) while he was "awake." So, in other words, we MIGHT have been instructed to give you a sheet of paper at so and so time, ask you to write a prayer, to fold it, and to burn it, and then to ask you to put the ashes in your hand, and tap on your hand so that you would see the prayer you just burnt come back to its pre-burning stage (where then he would tell you "Look, you forgot to sign it! Sign it and burn it again)... By the way, that happened to me, and it didn't look as if it was Brother Ali took over his body... otherwhise, he would have asked me "why are you burning another prayer, you just burnt one a minute ago." So, in my experience, there certainly HAVE been times when Dahesh himself was "directing" the event. However, and either way, he had NO innate powers. He was the vehicle... Just like we see in the movies... except, this is not... fantasy (and so that you know, I even said to him "sometimes I can't think this is real" to which he replied "I know what you mean")

                      There ARE also the PERSONALITIES we have to take into account. Those could appear at any time, any place, and "break" the laws of nature.

                      As far as the writings, I can't answer that question as I do not have enough information. I know for example many Daheshists who (like) to think that every book was "inspired" and that every word is a "prophecy"...

                      I don know that the books of stories is "true." In other words, somehow, he was able to "see" events that occurred at certain times in history and tie them back to the present. Where these "delivered" to him, inspired, etc. I can't answer that question because I don't know.

                      During the days we would spend together, he would read stacks of newspapers, circle and title particlar articles of interest (which would then be sent back to be "cut" and "glued" ... Before Scanning, you had huge books were newspaper clippings would be archived... The Daheshist Library has a TON of those on just about EVERY SUBJECT. And the Doctor read them all.

                      Then, he would write at length. Was it him or Brother Ali doing the writing...or was he being inspired on the fly... I don't know.
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                      • #12
                        Ask Dr. Ghazi Brax

                        Dan,

                        If you wish AUTHORITATIVE answers to these questions you should ask Dr. Ghazi Brax. He is the reincarnation of the Apostle Paul, and the chief missionary of Daheshism worldwide. His email is:

                        [email protected]

                        Comments from myself, and Mario, are mere opinions. Dr. Brax can give you authoritative letters that, one day, will be regarded as Christians and Mormons regard the Epistles of Paul.

                        Originally posted by Dan View Post
                        Hello,

                        I appreciate the answers to my previous post, but I think I need to rephrase my questions a bit.

                        I have read most of Lights Upon Dr. Dahesh and noticed that it was stated that Daheshists refrain from speculating on the incomprehensible nature of God. I was not expecting to get details on the attributes or form or substance of God.

                        In Mormon belief, our Father in Heaven is known as Elohim (indicating gods in the plural). His "son" is Jehovah who communicated with prophets in Old Testament times and who incarnated as Jesus. Only on a few occassions has Elohim acted directly on earth such as at the baptism of Jesus when a voice was heard saying "Behold, my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased." For the most part, Jehovah/Jesus acts as an intermediary executing the will of Elohim.

                        In asking my question previously, I was hoping to get an answer that would tell me if this belief is accurate when viewed in light of the teachings of Dr. Dahesh. Please share with me your comments on this.

                        Also, what does Daheshism teach regarding Satan; what is his origin and his relationship to God and to the Christ spirit? Is he a single individual or multiple entities? Did he fall to earth with the rest of us? What was his status before becoming Satan?

                        I also have a few questions regarding the practice of Daheshism. First, are there any foods that are prohibited such as in the teachings of Judaism or Islam?

                        Second, I've read some remarks regarding fasting but have a few more questions. Is there any prayer or ritual used to initiate a fast or end one? Is there any particular significance to the 6th and the 20th of each month which make them the fast days? Is it the 6th and 20th of the months of the Gregorian calender or the calendar used traditionally in the Middle East or does it even matter?

                        Thank you,
                        Dan

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                        • #13
                          There is no right or privilege in Daheshism by virtue of past reincarnations.

                          Brax way have (in whole or in part) the spiritual fluids of the apostle Paul.
                          He was also a penguin.

                          It is what he (and everyone else for that matter) does in THIS lifetime that matters.

                          Whether his answers are authoritative or not have nothing to do with his reincarnations (whatever they may be).

                          One particular and much beloved Daheshist had a spiritual fluid from the prophet Elijah. And, he was the Doctor's son in an other incarnation.

                          Yet, the Doctor himself banned him from Daheshism because of his actions (in addition to asking me to reprimand him on a couple of occasions, and he was 20 years older than me!)

                          I do not infer that I do not respect Brax.

                          On the contrary, I do. I am merely trying to prevent (recent) history from repeating itself.

                          Now, Let's talk about "opinions."

                          I am about to share with you a couple of emails I exchanged with Darrick.

                          He contacts me out of the blue, inquires about my experience as a Daheshist, I point him to the article I wrote and WAS published in the first issue of Dahesh Voice, 1995. Ghazi Brax was the editor of the Magazine at the time. I had no direct contact with him because his bosses and I, had a big falling out. Still, for the sake of Daheshism, I agreed (when asked by another Daheshist) to contribute an article. For reasons I would (or might) go into later, I abstained from contributing more articles. And, technically speaking, the only contact I INITIATED with Brax was when I called him circa 1983 or so, to enquire (as per Doctor Dahesh's instructions) about his (the Doctor's) sister. Outside of that, I never initiated any contact. After the Doctor's passing, I would run into him at the Cottage in Greewhich, where I would stay and where he would come to (as per his boss's request) to work. Sometimes, I would drive him to the train station. And, incidentally, the reason I NEVER initiated (practically speaking) ANY contact with ANY Daheshist was due to the simple fact that I had become a relay point and a (not THE... I repeat... "A") spokesperson for Doctor Dahesh... A gatekeeper... In other words, the Doctor instructed (I don't know how many) to contact me if they needed anything. Anyway, I became a hub. Even AFTER his passing, and once I've declared total allegiance to those who claimed they inherited the MISSION—as in the right to decide how the Daheshist Mission develops etc. (as WELL as the estate)— I found myself in the same situation.

                          It got to the point where, if I called anyone, that might have been interpreted as being done as per the Doctor's request (or, later, the Trustees' request).

                          But, that would later change and the trustees and I would have a big falling out and would be shunned by (practically all) and ... read "The Daheshist Loan" in the "Comedy Forum."

                          In any case, in 1995, Ghazi Brax writes me a letter pertaining to the article HE published in the first issue of Dahesh Voice.


                          Before I share with you what Brax said to me, let's go to what Darrick said shortly after I suggested he reads "The Daheshist Journey"
                          Mr. Chakkour,

                          Decided not to use your material. It is non-sensical.
                          And, before I show you what Brax wrote me, allow me to share with you the emails between Darrick and myself.
                          From: "Mario Henri Chakkour, AIA"
                          Date: September 8, 2005 1:54:32 AM EDT
                          To: Darrick Evenson
                          Subject: Re: Dr. Dahesh


                          On Sep 7, 2005, at 6:40 PM, Darrick Evenson wrote:

                          Dear Mr. Chakkour,

                          I'm writing a book on Dr. Dahesh. I would very much like to have a testimony from you about Dr. Dahesh; relating to a "highly improbable" incident if you can. I will not alter it nor change it. It will go in the Appendix of the book under "Testimonies".

                          Dear Mr. Evenson,

                          You are welcome to borrow quotes from my published articles available on www.dahesh.org— in particular, "The Daheshist Journey" which was published in Dahesh Voice about 10 years ago (the first issue I believe and to which I own the full rights). It summarizes my perspective on the matter.

                          Regards,

                          Mario Henri Chakkour




                          From: Darrick Evenson
                          Date: September 8, 2005 5:34:04 PM EDT
                          To: "Mario Henri Chakkour, AIA"
                          Subject: Re: Dr. Dahesh

                          Mr. Chakkour,

                          Decided not to use your material. It is non-sensical.

                          (Unsigned)

                          Hello,

                          Yes, and I believe so. The reason I say "I believe so" is because the
                          term "miracles" is open to interpretation. For example... Saving a
                          botched Soufflé—to some—might be a miracle, whereas... burning a sheet
                          of paper with your intimate thoughts and seeing it materialize itself
                          before you might be quantum field anomaly—a highly improbable
                          event...becoming probable. So, if by miracles you mean what I think you
                          mean, then, the answer is "yes."

                          Best,

                          Mario Henri Chakkour


                          On Sep 6, 2005, at 4:21 PM, Darrick Evenson wrote:

                          > Mr. Chakkour,
                          >
                          > Did you know Dr. Dahesh?
                          > Did you observe any miracles by Dr. Dahesh?
                          >
                          > Thank you.
                          > Darrick Evenson
                          Here is what Ghazi wrote me about THE DAHESHIST JOURNEY article (as well as the accompanying art)



                          It's in Arabic. I will translate a couple lines
                          (June 5, 1995)
                          Beloved Brother Mario
                          My Peace and Love to you....

                          (Blah blah blah... yadi yadi yadi yada...)
                          "I liked your article." (he said... then he adds) "you should give the magazine that is the spokesperson for the sacred Mission more. Readers come in categories and each one of them will like a particular style. And your style will certainly appeal to those who are EDUCATED in the SCIENCES"
                          Then he says something about the fact that my "Daheshist Art" belongs in "Dahesh Voice" ... etc. etc..

                          Signed
                          "Your Brother Ghazi Brax"
                          There you have it folks, from The "AUTHORITY" himself.

                          Why would the "Authority" himself ask me to write more articles if what I said were mere opinions?

                          If only ONE person is meant to write about Daheshism, that letter would not have existed.

                          And, incidentally, before Brax, the Trustees themselves asked me to write something (circa 1987) that would appeal to the scientific community.

                          What I wrote was too complicated. It was in fact called "DAHESHVILLE" (I found a copy...)

                          Years later, it would become the basis for THE DAHESHIST JOURNEY.
                          Last edited by Mario; 03-06-2007, 09:54 AM.
                          "Fail, to succeed."

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                          • #14
                            When I logged onto Daheshville Monday and saw all of Darrick's tracks I was somewhat amused. I thought, "my god, he's back!". Obviously, offended.

                            I am certain I have only witnessed a very small part of his interaction with Daheshism. But, I have seen other posts on the internet regarding Mr Evenson, and his conduct, and I have a good idea who and what he is. An intelligent follower of your web site knows that you really have no need to defend yourself.

                            By the way, I had read "The Daheshist Journey" sometime back and I thought it to be an excellent piece of writing. I was curious about its' original purpose for being written. Now I know. It was challenging and stimulating. I can easily understand how Dr Brax or Darrick might not have fully appreciated it. It would require an opened minded reader with above avgerage IQ.

                            However, it saddens me to see dissension amongst Daheshist because if I am to seek more information, this will probably limit my access. Regardless of Dr Brax strength or weaknesses he is one of a limited number of resources. I am curious about who besides him, those associated with the web site, and the book store are actually spending their time passing on information. I have practically exhausted all of the resources I can locate published in english. Life passes too quickly and death will claim us all.

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                            • #15
                              Thank you Ron. That really makes me feel better.

                              And speaking of "reincarnations." I second what Sandrine wrote you: it is as if I am given a second (or third, fourth, etc) change to react better than I did last time. It's almost as if Darrick (by virtue of a spritual fluid he cannot control and which was placed in him) is testing me—without even knowing it. In essence, he is the catalyst. Of course, now that I've said that, I've opened up the door to the often-heard "how do you know what I did didn't happen according a divine plan" argument... If I had a dime for every instance of that statement I heard through the mouths of some Daheshists, I'd have ... a couple of dollars... Of course, there is the other scenario: my actions (whether in this life or the other) made it so that I "merit" to cross paths with him... and the future of our encounters might depend solely on how I will react. So, this time around, I tried to be objective. Yes, I know I published some rather sensitive materials—the emails he Cc'd me. One might argue that this is a breach of trust. On the other hand, if one looks at the dates once can clearly (or hopefully) see I've given Darrick an opportunity to mend his ways.

                              He has not.

                              He is bent on "converting" en masse Americans. That cannot be allowed.

                              My spiritual letter from Brother Ali was specific: I am to be a sharp sword that defends Daheshism. I am, for sure, not the only recipient of such a letter, and I can only "defend" one corner. I am a mere human. So are the others.

                              Now, let's discuss "the others."

                              There are a LOT of Daheshists who KNOW A LOT MORE THAN ME in terms of Data.

                              However, they (for some reason or another) REFUSE to come forth.

                              Or, perhaps, they refuse because they think that by associating themselves with me, they are lowering their spiritual fluids. Case in point, please read the message posted in "One Person's Comments."
                              You have another guy who forbade his daugther from playing guitar because "Mario plays guitar." (See the "Daheshist Loan")

                              I can only address issues brought up in the open. So, for example, when Darrick plays spin doctor for Dr. Brax, I set the record straight.

                              When I read a comment published in a magazine where Daheshists themselves claim there is no mission, no prophet, etc. I protest and attack the comment.

                              But, if Daheshists that I know REFUSE to come out (for whatever reason) I cannot expose them.

                              You know Ron, if I wanted to, I can post photographs galore and expose all the Daheshists that (once) inundated me with how much they are devout Daheshists... Don't take my word for it. Ask "Johnson." He's been there with me—for years. But that would be destructive.

                              Instead, all we can do is follow the Doctor's own method: we give people an opportunity to make the step themselves. That way, THEY EARN the credit for their effort. And it IS an effort. It is NOT easy (potentially) sounding like a fool... I mean, come on, let's be honest here... "Miracles, personalities, etc." Why, only lunatics can claim to have seen the actual reincarnation of Jesus.

                              Having your friends laugh at you... Or the people you rub elbows with at all these "soirees" you organize to perpetuate a false image of Doctor Dahesh snub you... that's no fun! You have a life, houses, cars, restaurants, etc. all that "stuff" your father (who will cut you off should he know you are a Daheshist) gave you... You don't want to lose all that!

                              You don't want your wife (whom you've never told the truth about you) to leave you!

                              There is so much at stake Ron...

                              Come on... Be reasonable...We cannot ask these Daheshists (who received so much and owe us nothing) to put it all of it on the line for the sake of humanity... Let's forget that the Doctor himself WROTE that the duty of the Daheshist is to do something for the sake of humanity.

                              By the way, ever wonder why nations reincarnate into particular religions?

                              I am willing to bet you that all those who (for example) sat on their "assets" during Jesus' time, had to reincarnate as Christians.

                              NO...I am not saying that every Christian in this lifetime was a slacker 2000 years ago...

                              Allow me to expand: Some, by virtue of their deeds, merited to be born Christian, and in the USA, versus... say, Christian in... the U.S.S.R. (too old to remember what that was? Then ask your parents!) why? Is possible that those born in the USA, in a comfortable home, attended Sunday school etc. did "their duty" 2000 years ago? One, from the get go, will have a better break than the other. Why? It has to do with their past deeds.

                              Of course, and now we get back to the issue of "no priviledge based on reincarnation"... If the Christian in the USA acts like a moron, joins a white separatist group, and publishes messages of hate on the web, whereas the the Christian in the USSR works diligently at bettering him or herself... Who do we think might "Merit" thet return and (perhaps) be born in fifties, sixtees, seventies (for example) and meet Doctor Dahesh?

                              Does that mean those who did not meet Doctor Dahesh do NOT HAVE MERIT?

                              Once again, NO.

                              See, here is a theory I have: Ron, it is very possible that you MET DOCTOR DAHESH when you were both young... and you died... Who knows, you might even have a spiritual fluid that links you to him... (in fact, why ELSE would you feel this yearning...) In any case, I am willing to bet you that all those who will enter Daheshism (freely, guided by a sense of yearning) AFTER his death will do so because they met him previously or have a spriritual fluid connecting to him....

                              It is YOU who are going to save Daheshism... not those who are so wrapped up with their... posessions... in fact... they perhaps base their whole identity on the fact they "know so much."

                              And, as we know, "knowledge is power."

                              Wake up folks... Like Ron said, life passes quickly and death claims us all.

                              Of course, my comments are not directed to those who don't even know we exist!
                              Last edited by Mario; 03-06-2007, 01:19 PM.
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