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    There is a documentary funded by the guy who made TERMINATOR (great show!) and TITANIC (horribly boring chick-flick) by the name of James Cameron, which purports to PROVE that they have found the tomb of Jesus, with bone fragments, in Jerusalem.

    According to Dr. Dahesh, the physical JESUS did not die on the Cross, but one of His 6 Heavenly Personalities did, and Jesus continued to live in secret for 20 years, then died and was buried.

    Atheists and Agnostics will believe the TOMB OF JESUS film because they don't wish to believe that Jesus has remains.

    Christians will NOT believe the TOMB OF JESUS film because the Gospels say that Jesus was resurected and ascended to heaven.

    Daheshists CAN believe BOTH the Gospels and the TOMB OF JESUS film! Think of it! Daheshists can have it BOTH ways!!!

  • #2
    I'll Show you "Titanic"...

    Originally posted by Darrick Evenson View Post
    There is a documentary funded by the guy who made TERMINATOR (great show!) and TITANIC (horribly boring chick-flick) by the name of James Cameron, which purports to PROVE that they have found the tomb of Jesus, with bone fragments, in Jerusalem.

    According to Dr. Dahesh, the physical JESUS did not die on the Cross, but one of His 6 Heavenly Personalities did, and Jesus continued to live in secret for 20 years, then died and was buried.

    Atheists and Agnostics will believe the TOMB OF JESUS film because they don't wish to believe that Jesus has remains.

    Christians will NOT believe the TOMB OF JESUS film because the Gospels say that Jesus was resurected and ascended to heaven.

    Daheshists CAN believe BOTH the Gospels and the TOMB OF JESUS film! Think of it! Daheshists can have it BOTH ways!!!
    Yay! Hurray for Daheshism! Come on everybody, convert, convert!!!

    OK, first of all: that program is going to support the allegeded "claims" in the Da Vinci Code. The documentary will show three coffins. One for Jesus, one for Mary Magdalen, and one for Jesus'... son.

    So, according to this documentary you're promoting on Daheshville, Jesus had a son and was married to Mary.

    Are you ready to believe THAT?

    You can't even fathom the idea that Jesus could be conceived like any other human being, how can you recommend a show that suggests he had a wife and child?

    But, then again, in a letter you received (supposedly from N. Brax for Ghazi Brax) on August 7, 2006, after he sent you his Epistle # 8 on 7/10/2006 in which he says:

    "Dear Darrick,

    Dr. Brax is pleased with your successive questions; this is a sign that you are eager to get full about Daheshism, and this is good for you if you plan to proselytize."

    (I have a very reliable source regarding the fact that it is Ghazi writing these letters and not N. In either case, the letter is supposedly written by N on his behalf... Besides, and you have to know "old fashioned" and "old school" women like N. (who I know very well) ... never, ever, in a million years, would a woman like N., discuss sexuality, so openly, with a man (that's ONE) she's never met (that's TWO). And Ghazi, if you are reading this, I hope to God you don't pull another one of your stunts. We've had enough embarrassments as it is! Focus on your TASK and finish the WORK.

    Now, allow me to share with you Darrick's master plan to convert Americans ...(I removed only one sentence pertaining to how much Darrick makes per year. I don't think it is relevant). Darrick BCc'd me the letter...
    From: Darrick Evenson
    Date: August 7, 2006 7:25:57 PM EDT
    To: " Ghazi and N Brax"
    Subject: Dahesh Mission USA

    Dear Dr. Brax and N,

    I do not think this will succeed, but I will ask anyway.

    I would like to start a "mission" promoting Doctor Dahesh and start converting Americans to Daheshism. I know how to do this. I have studied the proselyting techniques of many religious organizations for many years. I know what works, and what does not. If enough Americans in one metropolitan area are converted to Daheshism, then a Temple can be established in that area and Daheshists can congregate there every Monday evening.

    I can do this. I know how religious Americans think, and what they would respond to.

    I would be willing to do this part-time, with no monetary compensation. No funds would be available to me. All funding would come from the Trustees and go from them directly to the newspapers, or magazines wherein the ads would be placed. I would have no access to any funds at any time. The Trustees may worry that I may simply be trying to run away with their funds. If I have absolutely no access to any funds, then this would be impossible for me to do. But, my heart is sincere.

    I could do this full-time if that is what it would take. I would do this full-time for what I make now: (removed by Mario) K a year. But I can do this part-time with no funding to me at all.

    The "mission" would include the following:

    *Printing tens of thousands of copies of PRODIGIES in newsprint format (the same used by most community colleges for their class schedules) at the amount of a perhaps 5 cents per copy.

    *Placing ads in local New Age publications and the local newspapers offering this publication for free.

    *Hiring a mailing service to mail out these publications (I could also do this).

    It would also be important to specifically target one metropolitan area (New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, Salt Lake City, etc.) with a specific media campaign which included:

    *Large advertisements in the local newspapers promoting Dr. Dahesh and offering PRODIGIES for free.

    *Once several hundred respondants contact the mission, hold a "Free Information Meeting" at local public libraries, or perhaps a rented Masonic Hall, on Dr. Dahesh and Daheshism, and inviting Dr. Brax and give the lecture.

    *Out of those who attend, there will be those who want to know more. These can form the first "cadre" of Daheshists, who will in turn be trained to teach others.

    *From the initial group would come the first Daheshist Fellowship in that city.

    *Eventually, with more ads being placed, the Daheshist Fellowship can purchase and convert an old church into a Daheshist Temple.

    Unless a specific metropolitan area is targeted, then Daheshists would be scattered about the country widely. All large metropolitan area have at least one (and perhaps as much as a dozen) local "NEW AGE" publications. Seattle has 3 or 4. I'm sure New York City metro area has dozens. So does Los Angeles.

    Naturally, if this is approved, I would prefer to do it in the Seattle or Salt Lake City metropolitan areas; simply because I know I can find work in these areas, and I am familiar with these areas.

    What would be the "costs"? Again, no funds would be available to me. But I would simply "advise" that such-and-such an advertisement would run in the local newspapers offering PRODIGIES for free. I would then request that a number of copies of PRODIGIES be sent to me: depending on the number of Respondants to the ads. I would then mail them out with an advertisement to a Public Information Meeting to be held at the local library. This process would continue. Eventually, a local Daheshist Fellowship could be formed from Respondants. Eventually, if this continues, a Daheshist Temple (a modest one) could be created from the rental or purchase of an old church.

    Again, I have no idea what instructions Dr. Dahesh gave to the Trustees regarding the establishment of his religion. Perhaps it is not time. However, this is my proposal. If you feel it is a good one, please let the Trustees know about it. If they feel the time is not right, or that the Proposal goes against the wishes of Dr. Dahesh, then I will accept that as the will of Dr. Dahesh. They know his wishes far better than me. Thank you and God bless you.
    Darrick


    Last edited by Mario; 03-06-2007, 09:59 AM.
    "Fail, to succeed."

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    • #3
      Mario,

      I NEVER SAID that I supported all the conclusions of the program, just that the program claims to have found Jesus' remains and Daheshists can believe BOTH that Jesus died and was buried and He arose from the dead.

      What is wrong with my "Master Plan". It would have worked. I think it was not accepted merely because the Trustees of Dr. Dahesh's estate do not wish to do it at this time, for reasons they know best and we can only guess at.

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      • #4
        Of course your plan would have worked!
        I never said your plan was flawed.

        The problem I see in your plan (and that's my own opinion and I welcome others to cast their votes) is that it is textbook cult recruitement.

        In other words, your plan is PERFECT... for a Cult organization.

        But we are not a cult... We're not a "hive" ... Each one of us is a unique individual.

        This is not about quotas...

        You want to convert someone to Daheshism? How about you start with yourself , let go of your anger. It is desctructive.

        Are you the same Darrick Evenson, president of the W.A.S.P (White American Separist Party) who posted this message on this page?

        Here is the transcript
        10-30-2003, 04:13 PM

        Pro-Israel White Separatism

        I am a White Separatist. Why? Well:
        1) TERRORIZED by blacks (and some hispanics) during "forced bussing" days in LA school system mid 1970s.
        2) TERRORIZED by blacks in the Marines (they IGNORED the Southern whites saying "******" all the time, but picked on ME --who did NOTHING to them and showed utmost respect towards them).
        3) REALIZE that most blacks ARE anti-white, and racist.

        But...I just don't "buy" the International 'Jewish Conspiracy' bull****! It's just bull****!
        Ashkenazi Jews are Indo-Europeans! They are our brothers. Arabs are a separate race. ISRAEL is a friend to the U.S.! The Arabs are our enemies; as they have demonstrated over and over again.

        I believe that Noah and Abraham were Indo-Europeans. Abraham and his sister Sarah were originally "Abrahm and Sarai". Brahm and Sarai are the names of the father and mother gods in Sanskrit. The Israelites were Indo-Europeans among Semites (Canaanites).

        Hitler was NOT a white-nationalist. He was a GERMAN nationalist who wanted to enslave OTHER whites! He should not be seen as a "hero" to whites. Rather, he was a villain. White separatists much look to others as inspiration; not the Nazis.

        Here are my beliefs:

        1) Whites are the descendants of Adam and Eve; the first "white" people on earth.

        2) The ancient Israelites were Indo-Europeans. The Ashkenazi Jews are their descendants. Other whites are the descendants of Noah but not Abraham.

        3) Israel is a good FRIEND of America, and white Americans everywhere.

        4) Arabs are not our friends, but our enemies. They want to kill us and our children.

        5) The 'Jewish conspiracy' is a MYTH. Ashkenazi Jews are our brothers. The ancient Jews spoke Hebrew (Canaanite) because they lived in Canaan, but they were an Indo-European people by blood.

        6) Hitler was a megalomaniac, and NOT a friend to the White Race! He killed more whites than anyone else in history.

        7) "******" should be reserved for a certain types of violent black criminals, but many blacks are not "******s" but very respectable people who should be shown respect at all times. I prefer the use of the word "Nubian" to refer to them in general. Many are not "black".

        8) Blacks deserve "reparations" for their enslavement; including resettlement for those who wish to return to Africa, a home-state here in the U.S. (the northern part of Mississippi perhaps or parts of Alabama and Georgia and Mississippi), or some other form of reparation (like perhaps preference in Federal jobs such as letter-carriers).

        9) Not all Whites wish to "integrate". Not all blacks wish to "integrate". Let whites and blacks who wish to integrate do so, but the U.S. Government should allow white-only or black-only or hispanic-only or Native American-only "townships" for those who want them; with their own police, their own judges, their own jails, their own local governments. Certain religious groups (like the Amish) are allowed separate schools, etc. Whites and blacks should not be FORCED to "integrate" with each other. Those who wish to integrate should be allowed to. Those who wish to remain separate (a minority) should be allowed to remain separate.

        10) Blacks complain about white police and the white judges and juries are unfair! Blacks should be allowed self-government in predominantly black areas. They should be allowed their own black police departments in every black community. They should be allowed self-government; including their own judges and court system where they live. Blacks who commit crimes in non-black areas should expect to be policed and judged by non-blacks.

        The White American Separatist Party is about the "rights" of Whites to live free of black-on-white crime; to live "free" of being FORCED to integrate with blacks and other non-whites; in schools, at work, etc. We are for "Interracial Respect (i.e. I will respect YOU as long as YOU respect Me). We are NOT for violence, or skin-heads, or neo-Nazism. We are for peaceful, but _separate_ co-existence.

        Darrick Evenson
        Director
        W.A.S.P.
        White American Separatist Party
        Last edited by Mario; 03-07-2007, 09:46 AM.
        "Fail, to succeed."

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        • #5
          What are your sources?

          Originally posted by Darrick Evenson View Post
          and Jesus continued to live in secret for 20 years, then died and was buried.
          State your source(s) please! Where did Dahesh say that?

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          • #6
            We are not a cult. We do not 'need' new members. We do not recruit. WE DO NOT PROSELYTIZE. Let me make this clear....WE DO NOT PROSELYTIZE. People do not need to be provoked, enticed or otherwise coerced in to becoming Daheshists. Anyone that does this is in fact NOT representing what the Daheshist spirit and message is about and as such TOTALLY MISSES THE POINT OF DAHESHISM. Each person's decision to believe and be true to their inner faith is between themselves and their God. We do not CONVERT people from their beliefs. All we can do is try to properly answer questions and have meaningful debates about the myriad of issues and concerns that we all share.

            Ghandi wrote "One man with peace makes a majority".

            We as the Daheshist community do not need year end number tallys of how many people we have 'converted'. Again, WE DO NOT CONVERT. We do not adhere to the flashy soundbite approach of the evangelical "old church revival" where throngs of people show over the top emotional quiverings and fall to the floor as they are 'taken over with the spirit' as they all of a sudden become 'Christian'.

            While we refer to ourselves here as a community... Daheshism is a thoughtful, personal, individual journey. We do not care about the numbers on the outside, we concern ourselves with the subtleties of our personal inner beings that drive our very lives, intentions, thoughts and actions. Mario wrote on another post that EVERYTHING MATTERS....yes, everything matters...meaning, our deepest inner thoughts, intentions and battles are exposed (somewhere) and as such, we are accountable for them.

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            • #7
              As far as the current discussions regarding Jesus' tomb, and the Da Vinci code of whether or not Jesus was married and/or fathered a child/children. To my thinking and in trying to see the bigger picture...firstly, I do not think we could ever know either way with any certainty. And secondly, and this point in my mind takes precident over others I may have in my mind... it really doesn't matter to me either way. These 'facts' or 'theories' or 'conjectures' do not change for me who or what Jesus was then and is today for me. These theories do not represent for me the "AH HAH" moments that others seem to attach to them as far as being life or cultural changing moments.

              These are to me, secondary or tertiary details that in no way alter the bigger picture of the primary principles of who Jesus truly was when he was here for his blessed spiritual mission. And that folks...as with all spiritual missions...is to continually illuminate and elaborate and educate our flailing humanity in to ulitimately seeing the way and roads in life we can consciously take upon ourselves to follow in order to better ourselves along the way.

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              • #8
                Jesus is buried in the Piramids

                I heard from my father that Dr. Dahesh mentioned about Jesus being buried in the Pyramids (that explains why Dr. Dahesh loved the Pyramids a lot) and that happened a long time after being crucified when he really died (a normal death) if someone knows more about this subject and more information about the time after Jesus crucification (by the way i didn't read the second part of Dr. Dahesh book Jesus of nazareth ) please let me know.

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                • #9
                  That's very interesting. Is your father still with the living? Do you consider yourself a Daheshist? Do you practice another faith? Do you have other things to share?

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                  • #10
                    First of all, i was born in a daheshist family, my father joined daheshism when he was young, and he told me about a miracle that happened to him with Dr Dahesh (i'll talk about it later) and he is still living.

                    i have many wonderful stories to share that I’ve heard during my visits to the 'bayt el risala' ( the house where Dr. dahesh lived in Beirut) specially from the brothers and sisters there , we usually gather there every 2 weeks,
                    but now i am working in Bahrain

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                    • #11
                      I look forward to hearing more.

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                      • #12
                        Jesus died and was buried

                        I read that from, I think, LIGHTS UPON DR. DAHESH AND DAHESHSIM by Dr. Ghazi Brax, or in one of his lectures he gave at the University of Beirut. I was told that JESUS had 6 heavenly bodies and 1 physical body, and that the physical body was NOT crucified, but lived in secret and died 20 years after the crucifixion, and that when the Qur'an says, "They killed him not, but one who appeared like him" this meant that Jesus (born of Mary) was not crucified, but one of the 6 Heavenly Personalities was crucified, died, was resurrected, and ascended into Heaven just as the Gospels relate. In one of Dr. Brax's works I read that many times. When I find the specific reference I'll post it.


                        And.....YES, I DID try to start a White-Separatist organization a few years ago. The reason.....black on white violence. Over 1 million violent assaults by blacks upon whites in this country.

                        Originally posted by Daheshville View Post
                        State your source(s) please! Where did Dahesh say that?

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                        • #13
                          "A Daheshist does not hate"

                          Originally posted by Darrick Evenson View Post
                          And.....YES, I DID try to start a White-Separatist organization a few years ago. The reason.....black on white violence. Over 1 million violent assaults by blacks upon whites in this country.
                          And how many horrendous crimes by "whites" again "blacks" were there?

                          Should African American Daheshists form their own separatist organization?

                          "An eye for an eye make the world go blind" said Gandhi, the "prophet of the 20th Century" according to Dahesh.

                          Separatism is fueled by hate...

                          "A Daheshist does not hate" said Dahesh.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Darrick Evenson View Post
                            I read that from, I think, LIGHTS UPON DR. DAHESH AND DAHESHSIM by Dr. Ghazi Brax, or in one of his lectures he gave at the University of Beirut. I was told that JESUS had 6 heavenly bodies and 1 physical body, and that the physical body was NOT crucified, but lived in secret and died 20 years after the crucifixion, and that when the Qur'an says, "They killed him not, but one who appeared like him" this meant that Jesus (born of Mary) was not crucified, but one of the 6 Heavenly Personalities was crucified, died, was resurrected, and ascended into Heaven just as the Gospels relate. In one of Dr. Brax's works I read that many times. When I find the specific reference I'll post it.
                            I am re-reading "LIGHTS UPON DR. DAHESH AND DAHESHISM" and nowhere do I see any mentioning of Jesus Christ living for 20 years after one of his personalities was crucified.

                            You say "I was told." By whom might I enquire?

                            You're probably cross referencing information I posted regarding the Pyramids: The Doctor told me they were built by humans and that it took 20 years for them to be built. Perhaps that information got jumbled with Boxfox's declaration regarding the burial of Jesus in the Pyramids (as told to him by his father).
                            Last edited by Daheshville; 03-10-2007, 12:56 AM.
                            "Fail, to succeed."

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                            • #15
                              Jesus living for twenty years...

                              On page 60 of LIGHTS it says that Jesus was not crucified, but one of HIs 6 Heavenly Personalities was. The part about Jesus living for 20 years in secret then dying I READ SOMEWHERE, either in one of Dr. Brax's lectures or in an email he sent me.


                              Originally posted by Mario View Post
                              I am re-reading "LIGHTS UPON DR. DAHESH AND DAHESHISM" and nowhere do I see any mentioning of Jesus Christ living for 20 years after one of his personalities was crucified.

                              You say "I was told." By whom might I enquire?

                              You're probably cross referencing information I posted regarding the Pyramids: The Doctor told me they were built by humans and that it took 20 years for them to be built. Perhaps that information got jumbled with Boxfox's declaration regarding the burial of Jesus in the Pyramids (as told to him by his father).

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