The Revelation.

[Y.S.]

Dear brothers and sisters, we want to wish you a blessed and fruitful Christmas and a happy new year in the name of our guiding beloved prophet.
There is no doubt, our brothers and sisters, our teachings are based on the teachings of our beloved prophet. So regarding this matter I would like to cast light on the important book of revelation; the revelation of Apostle John. But not as to make it the source of our faith at all, since our source is the guiding beloved prophet and his heavenly blessed teachings.
So I want to start by asking questions knowing that you may give us the answers that the Dr. answered and nothing else.
So as for the first chapter, we know that Lord Jesus assigned Apostle John to carry letters to the angels of the churches.
My questions are: Are these angels spiritual beings or just symbols of people in flesh and blood?
If the letters were addressed to spirits, do those spirits have a certain authority on us. Since as in the book of revelation the angels were under a big responsibility. Please refer to (Rev2:14) and (Rev 2:20).
As for chapter 4, to who does the twenty four elders and the sea of glass refer to?
Again what do the four beasts that were filled with eyes refer to? What do their six wings represent?
In chapter five, what is the book of the seven seals? Is it the Holy Quran?
In (Rev 6:4) what does the red and black horses represent? What does the balance refer to, and what about the wheat and oil and wine? Why was he told not to hurt oil and wine?
As for the black horse did the Dr. refer to a certain period of time regarding those incidents?
In (Rev 6:12) what about the time of the earthquake, did it happen at a certain period of time in a previous life cycle?
I hope that my questions may be answered in details, thanking you for your cooperation, and that they would be for the benefit of uniting us in faith and thought. Thank you again.

[Mario]

For those who don't know this little bit of information: The Book of Revelation was endorsed by the Doctor in one of the "You Ask and Doctor Dahesh Responds" sections of "Bourook was Ru'uud" (Lightning and Thunder). Thus, we should take it seriously.

But (trust me) only a Prophet (or The Spirit) can decipher it.

I, for one, don't have access to such information.

Why these particular questions and why now? And what would you do differently if you knew the answers to these question?

[Y.S.]

About the Revelation

As we all know, God’s word is given for a certain purpose, to lift our souls and give us a new positive spiritual push in life. So the time help is always available by God according to his plan and wisdom. Unfortunately there are some teachings regarding the book’s interpretation’s that cast burden on the thoughts of some people deviating them from faith.
As for me this book has a special place in my heart. And as the Dr. once said: My love for books is the love of drunkard for his wine. Yet the more i drink, the more lucid i become.
As I said before, I would like to know the answers that the Dr. said and nothing else. With all respects to our brothers and sisters, wishing them all the blessed unity of faith. Hoping that you may answer my questions please, thanking you for your cooperation.

[Mario]

Unfortunately there are some teachings regarding the book’s interpretation’s that cast burden on the thoughts of some people deviating them from faith.
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When you say "some people," are you referring to some Daheshists deviating from the faith due to some misguided interpretation of the Book of Revelation?

[Y.S.]

Our dear brothers and sisters.

My love, respects and admiration to our Daheshist brothers and sisters, and our special greetings to their strong faith. Actually am referring to the people who are passing through temptations, at certain times. All of us pass through them, and of course we need God’s almighty’s help isn’t it?
So I hope that you may give us the interpretations that the guiding beloved prophet let us know when he was among us, thanking you for your cooperation. All my respects to you and all our brothers and sisters, as always.

[Mario]

How are these interpretations casting a burden (according to your assessment) on the thoughts of some people, thus causing them to no longer have faith?

Can you please give us one specific example of how one particular interpretation of the Book of Revelation is causing "some people" to no longer have faith?

[Y.S.]

The message of Love accompanied by deeds.

Dear brother Mario, again with our respects , please don’t misunderstand me. Actually false teachings are present almost everywhere, but not in the hearts of the believers, who stay firm in their faith. Nothing can affect the human being but his own thoughts, not the external ones.
Indeed some doctrines try to relate their teachings wherever possible, whether in the book of revelation or any other book. And as I have mentioned before, The Dr. and his teachings are our source, not the book of revelation.
By the way, I just asked about some questions; am not intending to open a debate about false religious teachings, and referring to them in certain verses.
And as the great itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ"
Am not preaching, knowing that Lord Jesus and all prophets are but prophets carrying the one message of love to earth, of course it SHOULD be accompanied with deeds, by the believers. Thank you very much.

[Mario]

By the way, I just asked about some questions; am not intending to open a debate about false religious teachings, and referring to them in certain verses.

OK, first of all, I wasn't debating you. I was asking you to clarify your statement.

Secondly, and for future reference, if you don't like to debate, then avoid making a commentary. And I must tell you, I don't agree with everything you say. But, since you don't like to debate, I will not say anything further.

I am saying this because I didn't want you to misinterpret my silence.

Lastly, and to whom it may concern:

This is Daheshville, a place where debate is encouraged. It may not be something you like to do, and that's your business. But anytime you post anything — and not unless it's a monologue (hopefully not a Haiku, because I simply don't get Haikus) — you open the door to a debate.

Every word you post is read, weighed, evaluated, and possibly challenged.

Some consider this torture. Others, well, a path to enlightenment.

Even the Doctor debated and used logic to prove his point.

[Y.S.]

Dear brothers and sisters, best regards to all of you. Actually it’s a great honor for me to witness about the guiding beloved prophet. Indeed he in my heart all the time, and I pray that God almighty may strengthen me to apply his blessed words, according to my capability, and my ability to understand.
I hope that any misunderstanding may pass away without a return.
Dear brother Mario, I just want to talk about the clarification that you asked me about.
Frankly speaking, I believe that the word of Daheshism has reached a lot of people. However, many rumors, and low spiritual fluids may tend to plant certain thoughts to weaken the believers, especially the new ones. And we all know how our message was faced by the greatest persecutions on earth.
Frankly speaking, Some people may mix the fact of six personalities that we believe in with the beast’s number 666. And this thought may cause a certain fear.
They may like to ask, did the beast come? Or is he coming? What do the numbers refer to?
Such is an example of certain teachings that try to defame the holy message by mixing its teachings with devilish ideas.
And I would like to ask this question with them also: What do the beast 666 number refer to?

[Mario]

Frankly speaking, Some people may mix the fact of six personalities that we believe in with the beast’s number 666. And this thought may cause a certain fear.
They may like to ask, did the beast come? Or is he coming? What do the numbers refer to?
Such is an example of certain teachings that try to defame the holy message by mixing its teachings with devilish ideas.
And I would like to ask this question with them also: What do the beast 666 number refer to?

I personally don't know what the 666 is supposed to represent. But when I add 6+6+6 I get 18. And if add 1+8, I get the number 9. If you read "Innocent in Chains, the Notes" you'll learn what the Doctor said about the number 9 in his original book "Innocent in Chains" which, to the best of my knowledge has not been published yet, despite how important (as I was told by the person intrusted with it) it was to the Doctor.

I know 666 and 9 are two distinct numbers.

Again, this is my personal opinion based on what the Doctor wrote and, well, the fact that many traumatic events are associated with the number 9, one way or the other.

As for those obsessed with conspiracy theories and insist on seeing evil where this is none, there is a word the Doctor would often use. It loosely translates into "Let them do whatever they want; I'm done arguing."

Lastly, if anyone dares persecute you for your beliefs, follow the Doctor's example: use every legal mean at your disposal to make them wish they ever dared try to deny you that which is your God-given inalienable right.

[Y.S.]

Thanks so much our dear brother. We really appreciate it. And we want to ask God almighty to keep this great and respected website as a burning beacon of charity, faith and hope according to our guiding beloved prophet's teachings. God bless you all.

[Jules]

Dear brother Mario, again with our respects , please don’t misunderstand me. Actually false teachings are present almost everywhere, but not in the hearts of the believers, who stay firm in their faith. Nothing can affect the human being but his own thoughts, not the external ones.
Indeed some doctrines try to relate their teachings wherever possible, whether in the book of revelation or any other book. And as I have mentioned before, The Dr. and his teachings are our source, not the book of revelation.
By the way, I just asked about some questions; am not intending to open a debate about false religious teachings, and referring to them in certain verses.
And as the great itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ"
Am not preaching, knowing that Lord Jesus and all prophets are but prophets carrying the one message of love to earth, of course it SHOULD be accompanied with deeds, by the believers. Thank you very much.

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interestingly...because mankind is a part of the Divine, we have such power (within) to somehow "know" what is right, what is correct, what needs further meditation and prayer:

"Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it. Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many. Do not believe in anything simply because it is found written in your religious books. Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders. Do not believe in traditions because they have been handed down for many generations. But after observation and analysis, when you find that anything agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it.”
― Gautama Buddha

.... seeing the peace, being the peace....respectfully, Observer Jules

[Y.S.]

Thanks dear Jules for your important and constructive reply. My appreciations.