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    hey everyone , this is a piece written in arabic by the doctor from his book
    "the Gardens" old memories , page 36 , i got it from daheshisme.org, i translated it to english as best as it fits , hope you like it


    حياتنا التافهة




    عندما قذف بي العدم إلى عالم الوجود،

    كنت ذرة في عالم الهناء والخلود.

    تلك الدقيقة ،كتب عليّ الشقاء.

    فوفي خضم هذه الحياة نؤت بالعناء.

    بين سلسلة الآلام المتلاحقة ترعرعت،

    وبأحضان الشقاء والكرب العميق نشأت،

    حتى أكملت العاشرة.

    ومن ذلك التاريخ،

    إبتدأت المعرفة الدنيوية تنطبع في أعماقي،

    واتخذت عادات البشر لي قانوناً،

    أسير على ما يسيرون عليه.

    ونقش، أيضاً، في نفسي الحزن و الفرح،

    وجميع العوامل البشرية الاخرى

    التي لم أكن كقيداً بها قبل مجيئي إلى أرض الفساد.

    وعندما أكملت العشرين،

    أحاطت بي رزايا دنيانا

    إحاطة السوار للمعصم.

    وكانت جميع هذه الشرورخاضعة

    للقانون الأرضي الذي يسير عليه الجسد الذي هو غلاف للروح النقية.

    كنت قبل مجيئي إلى الأرض لا أعرف عن الشرور شيئاً.

    وعندما ولدت وترعرعت،

    خضت غمرات مطالب الجسد المادي

    مدنساً الروح العلويّ.

    إذن لم سمح الموجد للصلاح الطاهر

    أن يندمج بالطلاح العاهر؟!

    فكرت كثيراً دون أن أصل لنتيجة مقنعة

    فنقصت حتى تأزف ساعة معرفتي.

    ستنطوي عشرات السنين،

    وستنحني هامتي من مرور الاعوام.

    فالأعوام تنهب الزمان نهباً،

    فهي كالبرق المومض الخاطف!

    واعتمدت رأسي بيديّ،

    ورحت أهيم في بوادي التخيلات،

    علّي أفوز بحل عادل

    لهذه الألغاز والمعميات،

    ولكنني،واأسفاه! عدت دون نتيجة منطقية.

    إن الحياة يا أخي،ليست سوى وهم باطل

    وظل حائل زائل.

    فالانهار الجارية وهي تصطخب،

    والبحار الثائرة وهي تزمجر،

    وكل ما في الكون من صاخب وصامت،

    سيعتريه الذبول فالأفول.

    فإذا ما انتهت،بعد ذلك صلتنا بالحياة،

    بعدما يسيطر الموت على ربوع الكرة الأرضية

    إذ ذاك نتجسد بعالم آخر.

    وبعين الدهشة يتراءى لنا الخطأ

    الذي كان جسدنا المادي

    يخوض فيه غمرات الباطل المرذول،

    وكنا ننقاد بطلباته الدنيوية.

    فيا للجسد الحقير ورغباته الدنية!

    ويا للروح السامية وأهدافها السماوية!

    وفي عالم الروح سنعرف أخطاءنا التي جرفتنا و أسقطتنا،

    فنتأسف لجهلنا الصارخ

    الذي كنا نرسف بقيوده المتينة.

    وفي عالم الروح، عالم الطهر والنقاء،

    ننتشي برحيق الغبطة والسعادة الازلية،

    وننشد أهازيج الحب مع الملائكة الأبرار،

    ونبتهج بخلعنا جسدنا المادي الحقير

    المبتلى بأوضار المادة الخسيسة.

    فبعالم الروح تحيا الفضيلة المثلى

    حيث لا يوجد مكر أو حسد،

    ولا كبرياء،ولا دناءة،

    ولا سفالة ،ولا جريمة،

    ولا بغض،ولا نقيصة،

    بل حب كامل، وسرور شامل،

    إذ يظللنا العليّ القدير،

    ويرعانا بحنانه اللانهائيّ.

    ولكن، متى يأتي ذلك اليوم السعيد؟

    وهل يجوز لنا الإندماج مع الملائكة الاطهار،

    قبل أن نكون قد كفرنا عن أعمالنا الشريرة

    تكفيراً ينيلنا ما نصبو إليه؟

    كلا،بل يجب علينا التكفير أولاً،

    وعندما نستحق أن ننعم بالسعادة الخالدة.

    ومن أعالي السموات،

    تتراءى لنا من خلال الأزمان السحيقة صور أعمالنا الماضية كغمامة سوداء مرعبة،

    تذكرنا بما كنا نقوم به عندما كانت المادة

    هي العامل المتسلط على عقولنا و نفوسنا.

    فلنضرع إلى الله تعالى أن يرشدنا إلى الطريق القويم،

    كي نقوى على محاربة الأدران والشرور،

    فنقرب وقت خلودنا،

    حيث تغمرنا السعادة مع الاتقياء الانقياء،

    وإلا فالويل ثم الويل لنا

    إذا ظللنا متجاهلين طريق العدالة

    ومبتعدين عن الحق الذي يعلو و لا يعلى عليه.

    Our silly life



    - When I was thrown from inexistence to the word of existence,

    - I was an atom in a word of felicities and immortality.

    - at that moment , Misery was written for me.

    - and in the midst of this life troubles persist.

    - Between successive series of pain I grew up,

    - and between the arms of anguish and deep sorrow I arose,

    -until I completed age ten.

    -and starting from that date,

    - life knowledge engraved in my depths,

    - and I took the habits of human beings as a law to my life,

    -walking on whatever they walk on.

    -and it was also carved in me joy and grief,

    -and all other human factors

    -which did not restrict me before I came to the land of corruption.

    -and when I completed my twentieth,

    -vices of this life surrounded me

    -same way the bracelet surrounds the hand.

    -and all this evil was submitted

    -to the law of the earth upon which walks on it the flesh which is the cover of the pure spirit.

    - before I came to earth I didn’t know anything about evil.

    - and when I was born and when I grew up,

    - I immersed in embracing the demands of our physical body

    - profaning the upper spirit.

    - so why did the creator allow for pure chastity

    - to merge with the unholy vices?!

    - I thought a lot and I never ran into a convincing answer

    - so I paused until my final hour of full knowledge comes.

    - dozens of years will elapse ,

    - and my body would lean throughout the passing years,

    - because years loot the date increasingly,

    - they are like a flash lightning!

    - and I rest my head over my hands,

    -and I went wondering into the valley of my imagination,

    -so I can find a just solution

    -for these blinding mysteries,

    -but unfortunately I came back with no logical answer .

    - life , my brother, is nothing but an unfortunate illusion

    - and a shadow soon to be extinguished.

    - the ongoing and noisy rivers,

    - and the rebelious snarling sea,

    -and everything in the universe from loud to silent,

    -will be affected by wilting then vanishing.

    - and if it were to end , afterwards , our connection with life ,

    -After death dominates the globe

    -at that moment we will be incarnated in another world.

    - and with an astonished eye the mistake will appear to us

    - that our physical body was

    - flooded by the repugnant falsehood,

    - and we were led by its mundane needs .

    - O to the worthless body and its villainous desires !

    - and how holy the spirit is and its heavenly objectives !

    - and in the world of the spirit we will know our mistakes that dragged us and made us fall,

    - and we will repent for our outrages ignorance

    - that made us walk with its sturdy shackles.

    - and in the in the world of spirit, the word of chaste and purity,

    - we will get drunk of the essence of joy and eternal happiness,

    - and sing joyfully hymns of love with innocent angels,

    - and we’ll rejoice in shedding our despicable material body

    - plagued with the filth of contemptible matter.

    - for in the realm of the spirit lives the examplary virtue

    - where there is no deception nor envy,

    - no arrogance , nor lowliness,

    - no turpitude , nor crime ,

    - no hatred , nor defect,

    - but complete love, and total happiness,

    - for the almighty place us under his shadows

    - and holds us under his eternal fondling,

    - but, when will that happy day comes?

    - and are we permitted to merge with the holy angels,

    - Before repenting our evil deeds

    - a repent that gives us what we hope for?

    - no , but we have to repent before,

    - thaen we deserve to enjoy eternal happiness .

    - and from the highs of the heaven,

    - appears to us from ancient times images our past deeds ,

    - like a frightening black cloud

    - reminding us of what we have been doing when the matter.

    -was the factor controlling our mind and soul.

    - so let’s pray for mighty god to guide us to the correct path,

    - so we can fight evil and vile

    - so we can rush in the time of our immortality,

    - where happiness overflow us with those immaculate and pure ,

    - Otherwise ,

    - be careful of perdition

    - if we remain ignorant to the path of justice

    - and away from the truth that rises and nothing rise above it .

    written in 10th of april 1933

    translated by ali joumaa

  • #2
    Thank You

    Thank you for your efforts in getting this translated.

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    • #3
      Great work Box~! Thank you so much for translating this piece for us. I know from all the translations that Mario has done, that none of this is easy or happens quickly. Thank you so much for your patience and perseverance.

      I have highlighted some purely spelling and/or grammatical issues. I obviously do not know the original in Arabic to compare it to... I just wanted to highlight what I noticed from a purely English standpoint for your review. Let me know if any of these suggestions I have made are correct or helpful.

      Again, thank you and awesome work...

      Originally posted by boxfox View Post
      Our silly life



      - When I was thrown from inexistence to the word of existence,

      - I was an atom in a word of felicities (<--- plural or singular?) and immortality.

      - at that moment , Misery was written for me.

      - and in the midst of this life troubles persist.

      - Between (a) successive series of pain I grew up,

      - and between the arms of anguish and deep sorrow I arose,

      -until I completed age ten.

      -and starting from that date,

      - life (life's) knowledge engraved in my depths,

      - and I took the habits of human beings as a law to my life,

      -walking on whatever they walk on.

      -and it was also carved in me joy and grief,

      -and all other human factors

      -which did not restrict me before I came to the land of corruption.

      -and when I completed my twentieth ("year"),

      -vices of this life surrounded me

      - (the)same way the (<---"a") bracelet surrounds the hand.

      -and all this evil was submitted

      -to the law of the earth upon which walks on it the flesh which is the cover of the pure spirit.

      - before I came to earth I didn’t know anything about evil.

      - and when I was born and when I grew up,

      - I immersed in embracing the demands of our physical body

      - profaning the upper spirit.

      - so why did the creator allow for pure chastity

      - to merge with the unholy vices?!

      - I thought a lot and I never ran into a convincing answer

      - so I paused until my final hour of full knowledge comes.

      - dozens of years will elapse ,

      - and my body would lean throughout the passing years,

      - because years loot the date increasingly,

      - they are like a flash (of) lightning!

      - and I rest my head over (<---"on" or maybe "in"?) my hands,

      -and I went wondering into the valley of my imagination,

      -so I can find a just solution

      -for these blinding mysteries,

      -but unfortunately I came back with no logical answer .

      - life, my brother, is nothing but an unfortunate illusion

      - and a shadow soon to be extinguished.

      - the ongoing and noisy rivers,

      - and the rebelious snarling sea,

      -and everything in the universe from loud to silent,

      -will be affected by wilting then vanishing.

      - and if it were to end , afterwards , our connection with life ,

      -After death dominates the globe

      -at that moment we will be incarnated in another world.

      - and with an astonished eye the mistake will appear to us

      - that our physical body was

      - flooded by the repugnant falsehood,

      - and we were led by its mundane needs .

      - O to the worthless body and its villainous desires !

      - and how holy the spirit is and its heavenly objectives !

      - and in the world of the spirit we will know our mistakes that dragged us and made us fall,

      - and we will repent for our outrages (outrageous) ignorance

      - that made us walk with its sturdy shackles.

      - and in the in the world of spirit, the word of chaste and purity,

      - we will get drunk of the essence of joy and eternal happiness,

      - and sing joyfully hymns of love with innocent angels,

      - and we’ll rejoice in shedding our despicable material body

      - plagued with the filth of contemptible matter.

      - for in the realm of the spirit lives the examplary virtue

      - where there is no deception nor envy,

      - no arrogance , nor lowliness,

      - no turpitude , nor crime ,

      - no hatred , nor defect,

      - but complete love, and total happiness,

      - for the almighty (Almighty) place (places) us under his (His) shadows

      - and holds us under his (His) eternal fondling,

      - but, when will that happy day comes (come) ?

      - and are we permitted to merge with the holy angels,

      - Before repenting our evil deeds

      - a repent (repentance) that gives us what we hope for?

      - no , but (maybe no "but"?) we have to repent before,

      - thaen (then) we deserve to enjoy eternal happiness .

      - and from the highs of the heaven,

      - appears to us from ancient times images (of) our past deeds ,

      - like a frightening black cloud

      - reminding us of what we have been doing when the matter (body?)

      -was the factor controlling our mind and soul.

      - so let’s pray for mighty god (God) to guide us to the correct path,

      - so we can fight evil and vile

      - so we can rush in the time of our immortality,

      - where happiness overflow us with those immaculate and pure ,

      - Otherwise ,

      - be careful of perdition

      - if we remain ignorant to the path of justice

      - and away from the truth that rises and (that) nothing (shall) rise above it .

      written in 10th of april 1933

      translated by ali joumaa

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      • #4
        thanks Ron and sorry for being late to response to you johnson , well johnson i think you're right about most of the words you pointed out and thanks for that, you know it's just i am still novice at this stuff , i tried to translate exactly the words and thanks to Mario for helping me also i forgot to mention that, and note the words that are between () are the corrected words.

        felcities i didn't find any a singular form of it abd in arabic is translated right ,

        i wrote matter because it is the exact translation from arabic and body is a part of matter ,

        the same goes to " and nothing " i think it fits here according to the original text ,

        here is the corrected piece again:


        Our silly life



        - When I was thrown from inexistence to the word of existence,

        - I was an atom in a word of felicities and immortality.

        - at that moment , Misery was written for me.

        - and in the midst of this life troubles persist.

        - Between (a) successive series of pain I grew up,

        - and between the arms of anguish and deep sorrow I arose,

        -until I completed age ten.

        -and starting from that date,

        -(life's) knowledge engraved in my depths,

        - and I took the habits of human beings as a law to my life,

        -walking on whatever they walk on.

        -and it was also carved in me joy and grief,

        -and all other human factors

        -which did not restrict me before I came to the land of corruption.

        -and when I completed my twentieth ("year"),

        -vices of this life surrounded me

        - (the)same way ("a") bracelet surrounds the hand.

        -and all this evil was submitted

        -to the law of the earth upon which walks on it the flesh which is the cover of the pure spirit.

        - before I came to earth I didn’t know anything about evil.

        - and when I was born and when I grew up,

        - I immersed in embracing the demands of our physical body

        - profaning the upper spirit.

        - so why did the creator allow for pure chastity

        - to merge with the unholy vices?!

        - I thought a lot and I never ran into a convincing answer

        - so I paused until my final hour of full knowledge comes.

        - dozens of years will elapse ,

        - and my body would lean throughout the passing years,

        - because years loot the date increasingly,

        - they are like a flash (of) lightning!

        - and I rest my head ("in") my hands,

        -and I went wondering into the valley of my imagination,

        -so I can find a just solution

        -for these blinding mysteries,

        -but unfortunately I came back with no logical answer .

        - life, my brother, is nothing but an unfortunate illusion

        - and a shadow soon to be extinguished.

        - the ongoing and noisy rivers,

        - and the rebelious snarling sea,

        -and everything in the universe from loud to silent,

        -will be affected by wilting then vanishing.

        - and if it were to end , afterwards , our connection with life ,

        -After death dominates the globe

        -at that moment we will be incarnated in another world.

        - and with an astonished eye the mistake will appear to us

        - that our physical body was

        - flooded by the repugnant falsehood,

        - and we were led by its mundane needs .

        - O to the worthless body and its villainous desires !

        - and how holy the spirit is and its heavenly objectives !

        - and in the world of the spirit we will know our mistakes that dragged us and made us fall,

        - and we will repent for our (outrageous) ignorance

        - that made us walk with its sturdy shackles.

        - and in the in the world of spirit, the word of chaste and purity,

        - we will get drunk of the essence of joy and eternal happiness,

        - and sing joyfully hymns of love with innocent angels,

        - and we’ll rejoice in shedding our despicable material body

        - plagued with the filth of contemptible matter.

        - for in the realm of the spirit lives the examplary virtue

        - where there is no deception nor envy,

        - no arrogance , nor lowliness,

        - no turpitude , nor crime ,

        - no hatred , nor defect,

        - but complete love, and total happiness,

        - for the (Almighty) (places) us under (His) shadows

        - and holds us under his (His) eternal fondling,

        - but, when will that happy day (come) ?

        - and are we permitted to merge with the holy angels,

        - Before repenting our evil deeds

        - a (repentance) that gives us what we hope for?

        - no , but we have to repent before,

        - (then) we deserve to enjoy eternal happiness .

        - and from the highs of the heaven,

        - appears to us from ancient times images (of) our past deeds ,

        - like a frightening black cloud

        - reminding us of what we have been doing when the matter

        -was the factor controlling our mind and soul.

        - so let’s pray for mighty (God) to guide us to the correct path,

        - so we can fight evil and vile

        - so we can rush in the time of our immortality,

        - where happiness overflow us with those immaculate and pure ,

        - Otherwise ,

        - be careful of perdition

        - if we remain ignorant to the path of justice

        - and away from the truth that rises and nothing (shall) rise above it .

        written in 10th of april 1933

        translated by ali joumaa
        Last edited by boxfox; 05-16-2008, 01:10 PM.

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        • #5
          Really great work Box... truly... thank you so much for your efforts. The goal we all share it to make the works of Dr. Dahesh accessible to as wide of range of audiences (including English speaking) as possible. For reasons unknown, not much of his work has been published in English. Fortunately, through the efforts you and Mario have made, various pieces such as this one have been made available to us in English.

          Thank you also for your considerations of my suggestions. I cannot do what you and Mario can do by comparing the English to the original Arabic text... I can only surmise what the intent of the original might be and highlight potential suggestions... in the end, these are your efforts and I can only try to offer my .02 cents worth of suggestion to try to get things to read as clearly in English as possible... it is certainly an evolutionary process... but these in time will be read in English by many, many people and they may stand as the only English texts of these works for quite some time.

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          • #6
            Another question... should "word" be "world" in the first few lines? also..."and in the in the world of spirit, the word of chaste and purity," should this be the "world" of chaste and purity"?
            Last edited by Johnson; 05-16-2008, 03:03 PM.

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            • #7
              yeah you're totally right again johnson i'll refix it , you see i suffer a silly english grammer fault desease , i guess i could call you my english doctor now


              Our silly life


              - When I was thrown from inexistence to the world of existence,

              - I was an atom in a world of felicities and immortality.

              - at that moment , Misery was written for me.

              - and in the midst of this life troubles persist.

              - Between (a) successive series of pain I grew up,

              - and between the arms of anguish and deep sorrow I arose,

              -until I completed age ten.

              -and starting from that date,

              -(life's) knowledge engraved in my depths,

              - and I took the habits of human beings as a law to my life,

              -walking on whatever they walk on.

              -and it was also carved in me joy and grief,

              -and all other human factors

              -which did not restrict me before I came to the land of corruption.

              -and when I completed my twentieth ("year"),

              -vices of this life surrounded me

              - (the)same way ("a") bracelet surrounds the hand.

              -and all this evil was submitted

              -to the law of the earth upon which walks on it the flesh which is the cover of the pure spirit.

              - before I came to earth I didn’t know anything about evil.

              - and when I was born and when I grew up,

              - I immersed in embracing the demands of our physical body

              - profaning the upper spirit.

              - so why did the creator allow for pure chastity

              - to merge with the unholy vices?!

              - I thought a lot and I never ran into a convincing answer

              - so I paused until my final hour of full knowledge comes.

              - dozens of years will elapse ,

              - and my body would lean throughout the passing years,

              - because years loot the date increasingly,

              - they are like a flash (of) lightning!

              - and I rest my head ("in") my hands,

              -and I went wondering into the valley of my imagination,

              -so I can find a just solution

              -for these blinding mysteries,

              -but unfortunately I came back with no logical answer .

              - life, my brother, is nothing but an unfortunate illusion

              - and a shadow soon to be extinguished.

              - the ongoing and noisy rivers,

              - and the rebelious snarling sea,

              -and everything in the universe from loud to silent,

              -will be affected by wilting then vanishing.

              - and if it were to end , afterwards , our connection with life ,

              -After death dominates the globe

              -at that moment we will be incarnated in another world.

              - and with an astonished eye the mistake will appear to us

              - that our physical body was

              - flooded by the repugnant falsehood,

              - and we were led by its mundane needs .

              - O to the worthless body and its villainous desires !

              - and how holy the spirit is and its heavenly objectives !

              - and in the world of the spirit we will know our mistakes that dragged us and made us fall,

              - and we will repent for our (outrageous) ignorance

              - that made us walk with its sturdy shackles.

              - and in the in the world of spirit, the word of chaste and purity,

              - we will get drunk of the essence of joy and eternal happiness,

              - and sing joyfully hymns of love with innocent angels,

              - and we’ll rejoice in shedding our despicable material body

              - plagued with the filth of contemptible matter.

              - for in the realm of the spirit lives the examplary virtue

              - where there is no deception nor envy,

              - no arrogance , nor lowliness,

              - no turpitude , nor crime ,

              - no hatred , nor defect,

              - but complete love, and total happiness,

              - for the (Almighty) (places) us under (His) shadows

              - and holds us under his (His) eternal fondling,

              - but, when will that happy day (come) ?

              - and are we permitted to merge with the holy angels,

              - Before repenting our evil deeds

              - a (repentance) that gives us what we hope for?

              - no , but we have to repent before,

              - (then) we deserve to enjoy eternal happiness .

              - and from the highs of the heaven,

              - appears to us from ancient times images (of) our past deeds ,

              - like a frightening black cloud

              - reminding us of what we have been doing when the matter

              -was the factor controlling our mind and soul.

              - so let’s pray for mighty (God) to guide us to the correct path,

              - so we can fight evil and vile

              - so we can rush in the time of our immortality,

              - where happiness overflow us with those immaculate and pure ,

              - Otherwise ,

              - be careful of perdition

              - if we remain ignorant to the path of justice

              - and away from the truth that rises and nothing (shall) rise above it .

              written in 10th of april 1933

              translated by ali joumaa
              Last edited by boxfox; 05-16-2008, 05:28 PM.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by boxfox View Post
                - and in the in the world of spirit, the word of chaste and purity,
                should this also read as "the world of chaste and purity"? I didn't catch these when I was reading this yesterday... we are just trying to make things "perfect", yes? Great work.

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                • #9
                  yeah i didn't saw that , i always forget the diffrence between world and word , it's good that you saw it

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                  • #10
                    I wanted to share some of my thoughts on this piece and break some of its meanings down for hopefully further discussion here.

                    I am not trying to re-write what the Dr. said, nor am I trying to embellish or soften any of its meaning. I am trying to stimulate academic discussion to more fully understand the deeper meanings of Dr. Dahesh’s work. There is so little (relatively speaking) of Dr. Dahesh’s writings translated in to English… I have to work with what I have.

                    Healthy, open discussion leads to further discussion… and the goal is to get people thinking… thinking people talk and discuss… this stimulates interest… interest in turn stimulates debate… debate, hopefully and ultimately leads to consensus and understanding.

                    One of my first thoughts that came to mind when Dr. Dahesh talks about how our

                    “…physical body was flooded by the repugnant falsehoods…”

                    was the movie The Matrix. To recap briefly the premise of the movie… there is the reality that our physical bodies tells us is real, and then there is the TRUE reality that exists behind the illusion of all this “stuff’ out here that our physicality tells us is real. In Dr. Dahesh’s piece, he illuminates for us that what we generally perceive to be real and important around us is in fact an ILLUSION. That more often than not, the thoughts and actions we engage ourselves and our energies in, if they are not in the realm of what is good for our infinite spirit, is in fact, not good for us at all… and upon the moment of our death, the reality of our frivolous nature and expenditures is laid out before us.

                    Think about it... right at the moment we can no longer do anything about our life past, we are shown how we wasted so much of it. All of our endeavors have to be channeled as best we can toward improving our spiritual sides and the nurturing of these healthy aspects of our truer, inner selves. And integral to that, we need to live to help others to be their better spiritual selves as well.

                    None of this is anything new… the “fall of the flesh” and overcoming “temptation” is integral to the essence of all established religions and integral to the condition of man since the beginning of time. (“time” in the poetic sense of the word, not the reality of the word…)

                    What is new, is the clarity of being able to try and see things from the “other side”. For me, one of the greatest miracles of the Mission and legacy of Dr. Dahesh, is that he illuminates for us the BIG PICTURE from the other side of this physical realm. Read about what he writes about the pleasures that the spirit can enjoy by achieving a stronger connections to things beyond our physical world...

                    What does it take to achieve such perspective or to climb these steps to a more enlightened state of being? First of all, it certainly takes a concerted effort on our parts. There is nothing here or in the basic tenants of any other faith that is going to come to us passively or by our loose efforts. To my mind, prayers and intentions do not take the place of actions.

                    It also takes faith and belief. Which comes first? Do we have faith because we believe, or do we believe because we have faith? Well, I think this depends upon who you are (and your actual mileage may vary...!)

                    I like to think of “belief” in terms of what one is willing to accept in our lives as being reality. As one grows in their own belief system, what we believe in comes more in to focus as to what is real for us.

                    All of the talk of “miracles” and beings living on the sun that record the events of the earth, beings from other universes coming to visit us here on earth… in time becomes a whole world that is no longer separate from the apparent, immediate world that our five senses tell us is real. Those beings and histories become more and more a part of our conscious reality...

                    We have to fight against the illusion of what exists in our daily lives. We have to discern and disseminate what is truly important and worthy for our thoughts and actions against what we only superficially feel is important.

                    Our TRUE selves is the spirit inside of us. Our bodies are merely the vessels, the vehicles that give each of us the mere sense of our presence here. It is the common sensation that allows us the means via the five senses of this realm (earth) to outwardly communicate and interact with one another. But we have to look deeper...

                    Faith is seeing beyond the obvious… feeling beyond the obvious. The criteria of tuning in to what we are as spirits go beyond the obvious needs and desires our bodies dictate.

                    Living in the needs and desires of our spirits in many ways seems to run contradictory to the realities our bodies tell our minds. We must learn to live from the inside out, not live from the outside in. Meaning: we have to manifest first from our deeper, truer internal selves as to what we want our lives and bodies to do for us, rather than living from the five sensory inputs that our bodies connect to and thereby letting the spirit follow these inputs. We are spiritual beings having a physical experience… we are not physical beings trying to be spiritual.

                    This is difficult… but this is the essential component of “being all that we can be”. Faith in this proponent, of us being truly spiritual beings merely having a perceived physical experience, is one step in an ongoing marathon of finding essentially a new reality for ourselves of turning to a NEW REALITY of a deeper faith of WHAT CAN WE ACCEPT IN OUR LIVES AS BEING REAL.

                    As one grows within their belief, what we “believe in” becomes what is REAL for us. Personally, I believe in the miracles of Dr. Dahesh… therefore they are REAL to me. Personally, I believe Dr. Dahesh is our one true and blessed prophet… this is what is REAL to me. I also believe that in the quiet honesty of all our sacred prayers, these prayers are actually sent somewhere (like “cosmic email, to use Mario’s analogy…) and duly noted by their intended recipients.

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                    • #11
                      Even better.

                      This piece is even more meaningful due to the efforts to improve and provide discussion.

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