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    Is there mention of the prophet Enoch (also known as Hanok, Idris, Hermes) in the writings of Dr. Dahesh?

    If so, what did Dr. Dahesh write concerning Enoch?
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  • #2
    The only reference we have in Daheshville is Noah's letter, which was revealed and subsequently printed. In it, we see..

    "Enoch
    (Akhnookh) lived 365 years."

    If anything else is found, we'll make sure and post it for you.


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    • #3
      Originally posted by Daheshville View Post
      The only reference we have in Daheshville is Noah's letter, which was revealed and subsequently printed. In it, we see..

      "Enoch
      (Akhnookh) lived 365 years."

      If anything else is found, we'll make sure and post it for you.


      Other than Jesus Christ and Melkhizedek, Enoch was the greatest prophet who ever lived. And Dr. Dahesh had so little to say about him?

      That's the blackest mark I can think of against Dr. Dahesh's claims.

      Yeah, Enoch is my line in the sand. As far as I'm concerned Dr. Dahesh is a false prophet. Please remove me from the Board of Directors and from registration here at Daheshville.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by zionic View Post
        Other than Jesus Christ and Melkhizedek, Enoch was the greatest prophet who ever lived. And Dr. Dahesh had so little to say about him?

        That's the blackest mark I can think of against Dr. Dahesh's claims.

        Yeah, Enoch is my line in the sand. As far as I'm concerned Dr. Dahesh is a false prophet. Please remove me from the Board of Directors and from registration here at Daheshville.
        Wondering.... why would Dahesh need to reveal more about Enoch if that has already been done through Joseph Smith, Jr.? Perhaps Dr. Dahesh knew that the Book of Enoch would come to popular light in this past century so it wasn't a part of history he needed to expound on. I am trying to understand why Enoch would be considered the third greatest prophet. Please help me understand.

        Doing a little research: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Enoch

        About the part of believing him to be a false prophet... I just found something from a different source (Thiaoouba Prophecy) that confirms and compliments many things Dr. Dahesh did, taught, and wrote. It is amazing. I have had dreams of Dr. Dahesh as well as felt his delightful presence about a week ago and that experience is what brought my focus back here to Daheshville. He is definitely not gone. So I cannot feel the same way about Dr. Dahesh as you do.
        Last edited by WingedPaladin; 09-11-2008, 06:39 AM.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by zionic View Post
          Other than Jesus Christ and Melkhizedek, Enoch was the greatest prophet who ever lived. And Dr. Dahesh had so little to say about him?

          That's the blackest mark I can think of against Dr. Dahesh's claims.

          Yeah, Enoch is my line in the sand. As far as I'm concerned Dr. Dahesh is a false prophet. Please remove me from the Board of Directors and from registration here at Daheshville.
          We understand that Enoch is The Greatest Prophet for you Alan ... So be it ...

          But why such an aggressive reaction ?

          And why such a radical conclusion about Doctor Dahesh ?

          I personally respect your faith and your love for Enoch but, I cannot let you say that Doctor Dahesh is a False Prophet only because you are upset about something that should not upset you ... Sorry Alan, you know that it hurts !

          Plus : We did not answer you that Doctor Dahesh said nothing about Enoch.

          We said that for the moment, the only thing that we were able to find - to answer YOU rapidly so that you would not feel we were ignoring you- was in Noah's letter.

          Nevertheless, we added that as soon as we would found anything about Him, we would make sure to let you know.

          How can you think we know EVERYTHING that The Doctor has written ?

          Your question requires further investigation ... Sorry, we do not know The Doctor's Books by heart.

          That being said, if YOU do not wish to remain among us, that’s your choice Alan.

          Our energy – like yours- is precious and we do not have the right to lose our time trying to convince people who are not convinced.

          The Daheshist Faith comes from the heart. This is a very personal and intimate feeling … Either you are blessed to feel it or you don’t feel it. One thing is sure, we cannot force it.

          Nobody can force Love in anyone’s heart … that’s just the way it is, even if it's sad.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by zionic View Post
            Other than Jesus Christ and Melkhizedek, Enoch was the greatest prophet who ever lived. And Dr. Dahesh had so little to say about him?

            That's the blackest mark I can think of against Dr. Dahesh's claims.

            Yeah, Enoch is my line in the sand. As far as I'm concerned Dr. Dahesh is a false prophet. Please remove me from the Board of Directors and from registration here at Daheshville.
            THIS is your line in the sand!? Wow...

            You know what? I am tired of people coming here UNSOLICITED and later asking us to do their dirty work for them.

            We'll change your title. But We're not doing your dirty work for you.

            You do what the others did: log on and start deleting everyone of your posts. Remove your picture. Whatever. But you do it.

            And, just change your own Control Panel preferences.

            Go ahead... you have the power:

            Delete your posts and your messages. Go ahead, feel free to destroy and reek havoc in Daheshville—like two others before you. Go ahead, you have my blessing.

            As for removing your registration. We don't do that anymore—unless the individual behaves like a DTE.

            That aside, we trust in that people have enough will power not to enter Daheshville on their own.
            Last edited by Mario; 09-11-2008, 11:55 AM.
            "Fail, to succeed."

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            • #7
              Originally posted by WingedPaladin View Post
              I just found something from a different source (Thiaoouba Prophecy) that confirms and compliments many things Dr. Dahesh did, taught, and wrote.
              Oh, for crying out loud Winged Paladin... That book is a SCAM... Enough, ENOUGH!


              Winged Paladin
              ... Listen and pay strict attention, for this is —may God be my witness— the last time I will attempt to make you see what you are still failing to see:

              11-18-2007, 06:18 PM (EST)
              http://www.daheshville.com/forum/sho...8&postcount=20

              The dreams discussed in the above link occurred practically at the same time you started this thread on 10-23-2007, 06:43 AM (EST)
              http://www.daheshville.com/forum/sho...=1973#post1973

              Basically, and to my way of seeing things, you were exhibiting signs that your quest to learn the Daheshist Symbol was motivated by reasons I did not deem to be appropriate. And that was part of a pattern of behavior that worried me.

              I kept seeing in you an unhealthy fixation on finding some sort of tangible proof—which is (I believe) what led you to Destini's lair.

              You became deeply involved with this Destini group for a while. You promoted (or showcased) their YouTube Videos also.

              To me, when you entered the lair of that Charlatan Destini who is nothing more than a crafty (and obviously very effective) performer and opportunist, that was precisely the re-enactment of that portion in the dream (i reference above) where I saw the woman being kidnapped by the antagonists and being hold her captive...

              And on September 9th, when you brought this new "fascinating story" it made the dream I saw earlier that morning, all too clear: for on the morning of September 9th, I dreamt that an antagonist tried to slow down my pace, as I was following Doctor Dahesh... And, to add insult to injury, and after sabotaging my attempt to do my job (which was to follow and protect Doctor Dahesh) he has (in the dream) the temerity to call to the Doctor and to tell him "look, Mario is not doing his job!"

              To me, every time you immerse yourself in a "new" thing and bring it to us, it takes energy that we really don't have.

              In essence, there are Spiritual Fluids what want our demise. Please don't bring them to us unwittingly.

              I am sorry you never got to meet Doctor Dahesh in this lifetime.

              But you must come to the acceptance that no one — and not until the appearance of the "Six Guides" when there will be a new Genesis — is in direct touch with any portal, or has any information that is certifiably prophetic.

              Also, re-read "Journey of a Musk Rose." It clearly states one two possible outcomes with regard to our fate on this planet.

              As for this Michel: He published his book in 1995.

              It might interest you to know that Doctor Dahesh wrote about the inhabitants of the moon years before his death in 1984, and that this book was published and sold in FRENCH in 1991.

              The information is right off Amazon.com, see for yourself — Le Rêve Ailé ou La Vie des Vivants sur la Lune & Longues Moustaches et Barbes Funestes (French) by Dr. Dahesh (Hardcover - Sep 1991)

              As for this story of Sodom and Gomorrah being destroyed by the alien ship:

              Doctor Dahesh also wrote it in "Journey of a Musk Rose" which was published in Arabic before 1980 and then published and sold in German in the late 1980's (http://www.daheshheritage.org/dahesh/details.asp?id=32)

              So this Michel's story is either 100% fabrication based on borrowed themes or a fantastic "coincidence."

              But it cannot be 100% certifiably legitimate because the information was already in existence years before that book even appeared on the market.

              And what will you do when you finally realize that this is a scam?

              Will you try and hunt for another piece of evidence?

              The *evidence* you (and everyone in your position) is looking for is coming... sooner or later.

              That is when many of you who are *unsure* about certain elements of this story might finally "get it."

              But Jesus said something about believing without seeing.

              Yes, I know, it is easy for me or Sandrine (by the way, the only persons in Daheshville to have known Doctor Dahesh... sad, is it not?) to say that.

              Then again, if you can muster enough inner strength and resolve to accept and just BELIEVE, perhaps, in your next incarnation, you will see him.

              And we can offer you the tools and guidance. We have done so and are continuing to do so in a totally open and transparent manner.

              But it is all up to you.

              And I assure you, you have already more than you need as far as the information is concerned. Would it really change matters to you if you knew how many Spiritual Fluids you could balance on the tip of a pin?

              This is about process.

              And if the keepers of the information are not willing to open the gates. So what? Do you honestly think that God would forsake his flock? For all we know, that was a test and these "information keepers" are failing it miserably.

              So, forget the details. You've got enough details to build a whole Daheshist Civilization!

              Look at how much was built in terms of Christianity with, practically very little detail! In fact, it was ALL metaphors or Parables. Yet, Christianity exploded.
              "Fail, to succeed."

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              • #8
                Originally posted by zionic View Post
                As far as I'm concerned Dr. Dahesh is a false prophet.
                Then, it's official. Look under your title.

                You are now the official debunker of Daheshism! Go ahead, challenge us. Show us more reasons why you think he is a false prophet.

                But don't expect us to erase you from existence. Only **YOU** can do that.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by zionic View Post
                  Other than Jesus Christ and Melkhizedek, Enoch was the greatest prophet who ever lived. And Dr. Dahesh had so little to say about him?

                  That's the blackest mark I can think of against Dr. Dahesh's claims.

                  Yeah, Enoch is my line in the sand. As far as I'm concerned Dr. Dahesh is a false prophet. Please remove me from the Board of Directors and from registration here at Daheshville.
                  Enoch? Really? ok...

                  "The blackest mark" you can think of? You were looking for "black marks"? I was under the impression that you were looking for something else... I guess you really had us going there...

                  And now Dr. Dahesh is just the purveyor of "claims"?

                  Didn't you say here in Daheshville... that "gee, I don't know what it is, but I just love Dr. Dahesh"?

                  And now this?

                  A false prophet???

                  Isn't this called "Gainsaying"?

                  I think I've heard that word somewhere before...

                  I wish you well.

                  De'ja, DE'JA vu...
                  Last edited by Johnson; 09-11-2008, 12:36 PM.

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                  • #10
                    And just six days ago, didn't you mention a dream you allegedly had where Dr. Dahesh allegedly told you "I am not dead..." ?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by zionic View Post
                      Other than Jesus Christ and Melkhizedek, Enoch was the greatest prophet who ever lived. And Dr. Dahesh had so little to say about him?

                      That's the blackest mark I can think of against Dr. Dahesh's claims.

                      Yeah, Enoch is my line in the sand. As far as I'm concerned Dr. Dahesh is a false prophet. Please remove me from the Board of Directors and from registration here at Daheshville.
                      Alan:

                      At this point, I need to ask what else is going on in your life. Surely there must be an issue or issues that are troubling you and I would hope you would share it or them.

                      I do not believe that Dr Dahesh ever claimed to be "The Greatest Prophet" replacing all others. There are many he has not written extensively about. I myself am still trying to grasp the who and the what of Dr Dahesh. Never did Dr Dahesh ask anyone to give up or discard their current religious faith or belief. Instead I believe he encouraged everyone to strengthen their faith and beliefs. One can retain your current beliefs and study Dr Dahesh's teachings. You need to make your own choice of those things that you can integrate into your life.

                      For me, Dr Dahesh has added perspective. That is major news. Judaism was baseline. Christianity was forgiveness. And for Mormons, there was an additional layer. Daheshism was perspective.
                      Last edited by Loup Solitaire; 09-11-2008, 01:11 PM.

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                      • #12
                        So beautifully put Ron, thank you...

                        Anyone reading what has already been made available to them will see that Doctor Dahesh never even said he was CHRIST (the one we refer to as the FATHER... who is not to be confused with the CREATOR).

                        I can't believe that he led us along. This cannot be the case...

                        I mean... I've spoken to him... at length... there is history here... there are ups and there are downs.

                        The Dream he saw about Doctor Dahesh might have pushed him over the edge— in the sense that it forced him to make a choice.

                        For example, 3 months ago, he posted a message on YouTube... (and I am surprised he did not remove that message as well... ):

                        While I don't quite buy the idea that Dr. Dahesh is the reincarnation of Jesus, as he seems to have claimed, I have a profound respect for him and the manner in which he seems to have served as a channel for God's inspiration. He's very real to me and I often, for lack of a better way to say it, I feel him. It's like he's still around. So I too also often think of Dr. Dahesh as my "Beloved Prophet." I do in fact love him.

                        That was three months ago.

                        Six days ago, he allegedly saw Doctor Dahesh in his dream.

                        When we study his posts we clearly see that he was trying to fight off Doctor Dahesh. But, try as he may, he could not help (as per his words) feeling "love" for him.

                        We — and I dare anyone to prove me wrong — did nor said anything to influence his mind.

                        He came here on his own. Spoke his mind. Left. Came back. Left again. Came back again.. and now, he left for good... (?)

                        In any case, NO one, and I mean, NO one can tell him what to think.

                        Yet (and this is my theory) he felt he could not escape Doctor Dahesh... as if the energy was locking onto him and not letting go. Again, that is based on my personal observations, over the last (near) couple of years.

                        You see... and here is the bad news... in some cases, and even in the case of Doctor Dahesh's own closest friends, there MAY be a price for becoming a Daheshist—in essence, to be given what I consider to be a special spiritual cloak.

                        The price may be in the form of arguments with the spouse or family, the tension between friends who may end up shunning you or the bosses that may end up firing you...

                        So, perhaps this was becoming a dark reality that he was not willing to risk (or perhaps endure anymore... who knows... )

                        And I speak from experience. In my case, and despite all the "hell" I went through, I would never want to be anywhere else. Because, right now, I bask in such inner peace that I even envy myslef! (sure, every now and then, there are issues and problems... and annoyances... and fear.. and whatever... but , damn it, I know what the meaning of MY life is)

                        But he did once tell me during a phone conversation: "I would not want to be in your shoes."
                        Last edited by Daheshville; 10-12-2008, 01:03 PM. Reason: Correcting Typo
                        "Fail, to succeed."

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                        • #13
                          Wow. If my presense here causes you and Daheshville so much harm, perhaps it is best that I too walk away.

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                          • #14
                            I have another idea...

                            How about you alter certain parts of your "process" so that you may bring GOOD things to Daheshville, as you once USED TO?!

                            Huh?!

                            How about we try THAT for a change?!

                            Do you know how FORTUNATE you are that you appeared (as I saw it) in these dreams and that there was all that ... commotion... in you honor?!

                            And that is the BEST you can do?!

                            ....

                            Look...

                            Do what makes you feel comfortable.

                            Just realize that from today forward, I am no longer comfortable with allowing the leeway I have allowed up until now.

                            And it's for your own good.

                            That is why, from now on, nothing but the hard truth and no more sparing your feelings.

                            But if doing that is going to hurt you. Then, you should leave.

                            If, on the other hand, you think you can take it, then stay.

                            Daheshville is a SCHOOL first and foremost. And it is a tough one at that.

                            I mean, look how I addressed Sonic's claim.
                            Did you see the level of candor in my response to him?

                            And look how he responded!

                            Beautiful! No?

                            If you think you can handle that, then, great.

                            If not, then we might have an little problem.
                            "Fail, to succeed."

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Mario View Post
                              How about you alter certain parts of your "process" so that you may bring GOOD things to Daheshville, as you once USED TO?!

                              Huh?!

                              How about we try THAT for a change?!
                              What good did I use to bring? I thought I brought good by mentioning the book I just discovered, but had it slammed back at me without it hardly even being reviewed. What am I supposed to think? What good is there to bring?

                              Originally posted by Mario View Post
                              Do you know how FORTUNATE you are that you appeared (as I saw it) in these dreams and that there was all that ... commotion... in you honor?!

                              And that is the BEST you can do?!
                              No, I don't. I still find the representation of 'me' to be heavy set, brown skinned and in a yellow dress to be quite odd. To me the dreams sound more like a shame than an honor.

                              Originally posted by Mario View Post
                              Look...

                              Do what makes you feel comfortable.

                              Just realize that from today forward, I am no longer comfortable with allowing the leeway I have allowed up until now.

                              And it's for your own good.

                              That is why, from now on, nothing but the hard truth and no more sparing your feelings.
                              Play it how you like. It's your forum. I am only a guest.

                              Originally posted by Mario View Post
                              But if doing that is going to hurt you. Then, you should leave.

                              If, on the other hand, you think you can take it, then stay.

                              Daheshville is a SCHOOL first and foremost. And it is a tough one at that.

                              I mean, look how I addressed Sonic's claim.
                              Did you see the level of candor in my response to him?

                              And look how he responded!

                              Beautiful! No?

                              If you think you can handle that, then, great.

                              If not, then we might have an little problem.
                              We just might.

                              I am here to answer your post because of this:

                              I left here thinking I really have had enough and I don't want to be here to argue or to cause problems for Mario or Daheshville. Maybe it is time that I just shut up and go away.

                              Then a funny thing happened.

                              I got into my van to go to my doctor's appointment. I started the van and drove the van down to the highway. I started to pay attention to what was on the radio.

                              "God knows 'Cause you left me just when I needed you most"

                              http://users.cis.net/sammy/justwhen.htm

                              Hearing that phrase repeated again and again in the song thinking that perhaps the Doctor had something to do with it being on the radio right at this moment, I burst out in tears, sobbed and drove hoping to be able to clean myself up enough to be presentable at the doctor's office. The next song was funny because it was a lady suggesting to a man that they could make it better.

                              As I sat in the waiting room, I felt something like a warm heavy blanket surround me... a lot like what I feel lately whenever my husband or I get a Priesthood blessing. It was very comforting and removed much of the sadness and alienation I had felt.


                              Originally posted by Mario View Post
                              And on September 9th, when you brought this new "fascinating story" it made the dream I saw earlier that morning, all too clear: for on the morning of September 9th, I dreamt that an antagonist tried to slow down my pace, as I was following Doctor Dahesh... And, to add insult to injury, and after sabotaging my attempt to do my job (which was to follow and protect Doctor Dahesh) he has (in the dream) the temerity to call to the Doctor and to tell him "look, Mario is not doing his job!"
                              Am I this antagonist?

                              I didn't come here to try to be antagonizing for you or Daheshville. If anything I was very antagonizing for Desteni because I was so pro-Jesus and pro-Christ and was providing a lot of evidence (mainly from Mormonism) to counter their anti-religion claims. I even got insulted and sworn at a couple of times and told to go away because I wasn't buying into their ideas. If I am this antagonist for you, I am very sorry. I have much more respect for you and this is why what you say to me or concerning me has such an effect.
                              Last edited by WingedPaladin; 09-11-2008, 11:46 PM.

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