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  • The Method behind the Miracle of Healing

    Being of a physics background, I believe there to be an explanation behind the phenomena we see in our world, physical and spiritual, even that which we call miracles. I believe I have mentioned before that I believe God to be the great Physicist who understands the laws of the universe to a much greater degree than we, mankind as a whole, have comprehended. Thus, as a physicist, I believed there to be a reason, a method, behind healing. I was in pain - I had the terrible headache. What I didn't mention in my comments regarding Dr. George King, was that I prayed about healing and asked the Lord, "How is it done?"

    I have already known a few of the answers to that:

    1. Karma/universal justice/energy transference - One Being voluntarily takes on the infirmity, punishment, guilt, etc. of the another Being or Beings. Jesus did this on a grand scale which is why he is known to be the greatest healer on this planet. I knew someone else personally who was able to do this for people she loved and wanted to help, but it was like, "Uh, ok, I'm healed, but what about you now that you have my problem?!" Maybe healings via the Priesthood works this way, where, through the blessing, Christ takes the infirmity from us, and takes it upon Himself. I did not observe the Elder giving the blessing take on the infirmity, although some have reportedly expressed feeling tired afterward.

    "And Jesus said, Somebody hath touched me: for I perceive that virtue is gone out of me."
    (Luke 8:46)

    Though I found much healing in Priesthood blessings, I was still looking (I have been for 10 years) because I still had not been made whole, and soon after this prayer, I found the Aetherius Society and the 12 blessings which helps me a great deal with spiritual healing. (YouTube interviews of women who experienced much of the same thing I did.) The healing I felt here was much higher energies raising my lower spiritual fluids/energies. When I consider what has happened, I think of heat, where if you put a hot coal into a cool glass of water, it both warms the glass of water and cools the hot coal until they reach a temperature equilibrium. It brings me to concern for those I felt healing me, but then I consider, perhaps they have their own healers, and on and on in a chain which finally reaches the Omnipotent, the source of all energy and light which recharges the chain. Am I made whole now? No, not completely, but I feel I am on the right track. I believe sacrificing the things of this world for Christ and the love of God will be a major step toward my healing.

    2. Physical problems are often the result of emotional and/or spiritual stress, trauma, guilt, fear, anger, etc. because there is a strong connection between the spiritual, emotional, and physical.

    "Afterward Jesus findeth him in the temple, and said unto him, Behold, thou art made whole: sin no more, lest a worse thing come unto thee." (John 5:14)

    See also Matthew 9:2-7 where Jesus both forgives and heals the man with palsy.


    A day or two after finding and experiencing the spiritual healing, I discovered a link to EFT - Emotional Freedom Technique: http://www.emofree.com

    EFT is based on tapping, and thus stimulating, the energy meridian points known by Chinese acupuncture and acupressure in sequence while focusing on the problem and its emotional intensity, thus releasing the emotional charge. What they found is that the intensity of the negative emotional response to a memory or a thought, during and after this technique would "deflate like a balloon." It not only quickly alleviated the emotional problem, but often alleviated a physical symptom such as a headache, neck pain, back pain, allergies, etc.

    This may or may not have been involved in Jesus' healing of the blind man where, after spitting in some clay, "anointed the eyes of the blind man," and told the man to wash it out: (John 9:1-11) Three of the major energy meridian points are around the eyes.

    Belief (aka faith, trust) is a powerful tool in the effectiveness of this technique as is the reduction of fear.

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    Just a moment ago, I asked the question, "What is the difference between Priesthood blessings, the Twelve Blessings, and EFT?"

    I envisioned a wineskin.



    EFT puts holes in the bag, allowing dirty, contaminated water to pour out. What is left is vapor and air, representing the life within us.

    Priesthood blessings and the Twelve Blessings pour pure, fresh, clean, invigorated water into the wineskin which purifies and fills a clean (repentant) wineskin, and perhaps dilutes a dirty wineskin (persuading the unrepentant to repentance) .
    Last edited by WingedPaladin; 01-19-2009, 06:57 AM.

  • #2
    My take...

    I neither approve nor endorse the opinions expressed in the above post.

    From a Daheshist perspective, the premise is wrong and Winged Paladin, despite her eloquence and usage of Daheshist phrases, has proven to me that she has not yet grasped (not even at an intuitive level) the core of the Daheshist Message.
    "Fail, to succeed."

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    • #3
      Much love to you Mario for your take, assessment and difference of opinion. I know my knowledge and wisdom to be that of a gnat compared to the wisdom and knowledge of God. (The gnat perhaps has greater wisdom and intelligence than I.) It would, I believe, to be beneficial to me (and to others) to be shown wherein I am in error, thereby I may stand corrected.
      Last edited by WingedPaladin; 01-19-2009, 12:54 PM.

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      • #4
        Dear Winged Paladin:

        I am very happy for your happiness and enthusiasm. But this is Daheshville, and here (ultimately) we have a Daheshist perspective.

        There is so much any one of us (Daheshists) can do in order to convey (in writing) that which (according to Dr. Dahesh himself) would take 20 years to be truly understood.

        You're no stranger here, so I'll just go ahead and address you like one of the family...

        Therefore...

        1) I will ask that you study what I have already written to date, and which is available free-of-charge, 24/7. Somewhere in these thousands of pages, I assure you, you will find the answer.

        2) I will also ask that you voluntarily abstain from mentioning any further this Doctor George King person. I think you've already been given ample space and leeway to express yourself.
        "Fail, to succeed."

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        • #5
          I sense there may be some misunderstanding of my wineskin metaphor. It is just a metaphor. With EFT, I do not believe one's spiritual fluids literally spill out, nor do I believe the law of causation becomes negated. I do believe the intensity of one's emotional charge is released, much like how one releases a static charge after rubbing one's feet on the carpet by touching a metal doorknob. The pouring of water is also a metaphor and has often been used as such by many religious beliefs, though some (if not many) take it literally and use water in their rituals and practices (ie. baptism, washings, waterfalls).

          Originally posted by Mario View Post
          1) I will ask that you study what I have already written to date, and which is available free-of-charge, 24/7. Somewhere in these thousands of pages, I assure you, you will find the answer.
          I am not certain what you expect me to find, nor where you wish me to search. Believing I am to assume "these thousands of pages" exist here in Daheshville, I've started back with Daheshism 101 to see if what I find relates to anything I have discussed recently.

          What I have found thus far:

          4 - The Intrinsic Unity of Religions:

          Through this conception unifying the prophets and the Guides, Daheshism looks at all religions, and sees them as chapters in one book - the book of Spiritual Guidance. And among these chapters there is integration not contradiction. Each one contains a part of the Spiritual Truth, not the whole Absolute Truth, and each one is true as far as the believers in it are concerned, that is in relation to their intellectual and spiritual levels. For religions differ on the levels of knowledge and spirituality comprised in their teachings and practices, as much as the human groupings for which these religions are meant differ. For God does not oblige a soul with more than it can endure.

          This intrinsic religious unity, according to Daheshism, does not only embrace the greatest monotheistic religions, by which I mean Judaism, Christianity, and Islam, but also includes all the other religions in their origins, and before their distortion by worldly interests and unfounded speculations.
          ....
          The belief in the intrinsic unity of religions, as well as in the unity of the Prophets, is a way that leads to the unity of humanity, and through which alone the love of each believer broadens to encompass believers of all faiths.
          5 - The Truth and Religions:

          Daheshism believes that the whole Absolute Truth is the Creator-Power Himself, and His image does not exist except in the Heavenly Spiritual World, which is the image of God. Therefore, in vain do scientists, theologians and philosophers search for the whole absolute truth, because it is beyond the reach of men.

          Therefore, Truth on Earth is partial and relative, in all religions as well as in science. Religions should not then pretend a monopoly over the whole spiritual truth, because that is impossible even to the inhabitants of Paradise themselves, who belong to the most advanced cosmic civilizations.
          In another post, I mentioned I asked the Lord in prayer, "What am I to be doing here? What is my mission? What does it have to do with Daheshism?"

          The next night, I was lying in my bed, looking toward the ceiling thinking about what I was learning and experiencing a sensation of soul expansion. I saw before me (almost like it was floating before me, yet in my mind) what looked to me to be the corner of a blanket, but as if it were magnified many times so that I could see the the fibers in the blanket enlarged. They looked much like pastel colored tubes: mainly pink, cyan, purple weaved together. At the corner however, the ends were frayed and apart. There were also little bits of color that went beyond the end of the fray completely separated. As I viewed this, a scripture from the Book of Mormon came into my mind:

          "And he commanded them that there should be no contention one with another, but that they should look forward with one eye, having one faith and one baptism, having their hearts knit together in unity and in love one towards another." (Mosiah 18:21)

          I realized then, that what I have been doing here (aside from driving Mario crazy), the linking truths from different sources, was a subconscious drive to fulfill this mission. The spiritual pain I have experienced to different degrees in the past 10 years has been a factor in that drive, for without it, I probably would have been content with being a mainstream Mormon.

          I feel what I am sharing here is not only for Daheshists, but for others who come here from different faiths, especially the newer ones, to find out how much their own beliefs tie in with the teachings of Dr. Dahesh and other religions, thereby building a brotherhood and camaraderie between faiths and a greater understanding and comprehension of the works of God among each one.

          Other related topics from Daheshism 101

          6 - Cosmic Civilizations or Paradise and Hell
          7 - The Fluids
          9 - The Spiritual Causation
          11 - Dissimilar Fluids and Dissimilar Humans

          My "U.F.O" encounter...
          http://www.daheshville.com/forum/showthread.php?t=139

          Cosmic Civilizations
          http://www.daheshville.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=67

          The Planet Fomalzab
          http://www.daheshville.com/forum/showthread.php?t=64
          Last edited by WingedPaladin; 01-20-2009, 04:53 AM.

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          • #6
            The Gnat

            Yesterday, (1/19/2009) I was sitting at my laptop and my elbow was resting on the space in front of the computer. I see a gnat fly around and land onto my thumb. Fearing that it would try to fly up into my nose, my reaction was to blow it away. Upon my realizing that it was a gnat, I chuckled at the thought of my fearing the tiny gnat and I wondered if I, by blowing it away, had just missed out on a learning opportunity.

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            • #7
              Reality Check

              Originally posted by WingedPaladin View Post

              I believe I have mentioned before that I believe God to be the great Physicist who understands the laws of the universe to a much greater degree than we, mankind as a whole, have comprehended. Thus, as a physicist, I believed there to be a reason, a method, behind healing. I was in pain - I had the terrible headache. What I didn't mention in my comments regarding Dr. George King, was that I prayed about healing and asked the Lord, "How is it done?"
              Oh... so you are — just like GOD — a physicist...

              How quaint and chummy of you...

              Originally posted by WingedPaladin View Post
              I know my knowledge and wisdom to be that of a gnat compared to the wisdom and knowledge of God. (The gnat perhaps has greater wisdom and intelligence than I.)
              You're still overestimating yourself when comparing yourself to GOD.

              Originally posted by WingedPaladin View Post
              Yesterday, (1/19/2009) I was sitting at my laptop and my elbow was resting on the space in front of the computer. I see a gnat fly around and land onto my thumb. Fearing that it would try to fly up into my nose, my reaction was to blow it away. Upon my realizing that it was a gnat, I chuckled at the thought of my fearing the tiny gnat and I wondered if I, by blowing it away, had just missed out on a learning opportunity.
              Somewhere in there, there is a lesson to be learned and it is highly likely that the wide and unfathomable network of the world of the Spirits is sending you a message. Of course, we cannot be privy to what that message is.

              That notwithstanding: A Daheshist, and true Daheshist, would never dare describe GOD, the CREATOR, The Alpha and Omega, in the familiar terms you chose.

              A true Daheshist trembles in awe at the mere thought of GOD.

              We Daheshists are not here to sugar-coat the image of GOD.

              We Daheshists are here to remind you and everyone who cares to hear us, we, who were blessed with having seen the Power of the Divine Will, BREAK the laws of the universe, that we should ALL fear and tremble at the mere thought of GOD.

              GOD helps us all...

              Doctor Dahesh once said "Human beings are such that even if GOD almighty himself came down and had tea with them, soon enough, they would take him for granted and eventually say 'Oh, look, God's coming over for tea...' "

              Last edited by Daheshville; 01-20-2009, 02:17 PM.

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              • #8
                Reality check or blowing the meaning of my words out of proportion and making a mockery of my experiences? Is that what Daheshists do?

                To Mormons, God is personable. We call Him Father. I'm sorry my words in relation to God have offended you.
                Last edited by WingedPaladin; 01-21-2009, 03:36 AM.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by WingedPaladin View Post
                  Reality check or blowing the meaning of my experiences and words out of proportion and making a mockery of it? Is that what Daheshists do?
                  Winged Paladin, it is probably best for you to only visit Daheshville (if you so choose) in order to read and learn. You're always welcome.

                  And if you have any direct question concerning anything you read on Daheshville, you are more than welcome to ask.

                  But, please, no more posting of "experiences"... because, and somehow, it always ends up being a tie-in to some cult.

                  Call us whatever name you wish. This is Daheshville and you are only a guest here. You were given a lot of leeway and freedom.

                  Lastly, here is the answer to your question:

                  Yes, when people think they can use Daheshists and manipulate their feelings in order to use them as a springboard for theirs own beliefs, under the guise of "sharing," you bet!

                  If you don't like it, you know where the (virtual) door is.

                  We have NOTHING to feel guilty about.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by WingedPaladin View Post

                    To Mormons, God is personable. We call Him Father. I'm sorry my words in relation to God have offended you.
                    Well, then the Mormons are wrong, or you misunderstood your own faith. As long as you are here, you follow the Daheshist method.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by WingedPaladin View Post
                      To Mormons, God is personable. We call Him Father. I'm sorry my words in relation to God have offended you.
                      You can call GOD "Father". But (under Daheshist Doctrine) you cannot "personalize" him.

                      The Christians think Jesus was God. They are wrong as well — according to Daheshist Doctrine.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Daheshville View Post
                        If you don't like it, you know where the (virtual) door is.
                        Thank you for showing me the way out.

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                        • #13
                          Sadly, this outcome was a long time coming.

                          No one has the time or energy to get up to speed with and disseminate everything that another finds on the internet… it is just too daunting of a task. Individuals searching the internet must use their own good sense to determine what is important, of value or of significance to them…. And THEN sensitively determine what might be of importance, value or significance to a forum dedicated to conveying information about the life and works and teachings of Dr. Dahesh.

                          Daheshville is to provide clear and direct information relating to the life and writings and teachings of Dr. Dahesh. This is its singular mission statement… as well as to allow access for others to come and read and ask questions about Dr. Dahesh.

                          As such, there just are not the energies nor resources to analyze every submitted piece of information someone views for themselves as “truth” gleaned elsewhere from the internet. This is not making a commentary on anyone else’s journey of discovery… it is just a fact.

                          And while the singular purpose of Daheshville must stay intact, more importantly, the message of Daheshism must also stand free and clear of all the other white noise that is out there.

                          I have no doubt that in time, other forums will develop elsewhere where the myriad of “spiritualities” available in the world and on the internet will be discussed and dissected relative to the Daheshist message. I just think it has become clear, that certainly as this discussion (and others like it) have been going, it is just too much to do here. A little here, a little there, yes of course discussion on most anything can and do occur here on Daheshville, but the energies cannot go too far astray from staying on point of Daheshism. That is why this forum is here.

                          Nothing discussed here in the Daheshist message is fluffy or light. Everything here takes a lot of thought, introspection and LIVING the words… This is all fairly heavy lifting… as in, no swimming for an hour after reading here.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Johnson View Post
                            As such, there just are not the energies nor resources to analyze every submitted piece of information someone views for themselves as “truth” gleaned elsewhere from the internet.
                            And unfortunately, some seem to feed off this fact and proceed to use any excuse as a gateway to proselytizing, even go as far as using ANY heated and dramatic debate to interject their propaganda.

                            When you politely ask them (the first time), they apologize, then act as if your requests were never heard by engaging in even more proselytizing.

                            And when you (now) issue warnings to them, they (now) begin to butter you up with kind words and praise, and they lie waiting... for that opportunity... to fulfill "their" mission. They are not here to genuinely engage in a dialog. In fact, and even though you might have read every word they have published, they most probably have no clue about anything you've written. After all, why should they, since they are busy.

                            And so they wait a little longer and send you a short, succinct, and seemingly innocent private message in which they ask if you've heard of this or that guy.

                            Given that you don't have time, and given that they didn't really indicate or give any further hint pertaining to their true motives in the private message, you just as well assume that they are driven by skepticism. Little do you know that they have already fallen head-over-heals about "this" or "that" guy (they are seemingly running a background check on) and they not only post the original message they sent you, but use it as a launching pad to proselytize.

                            They proclaim their headaches to be gone thanks to this or that person... and never mind the MIGRAINES they are giving you!

                            It's all about them and their pain. Never mind we're not being paid to act as their shrinks and that (in the final analysis) they are subject to expectations and responsibilities if they expect to be given our time and attention — which we have given in a big way... and to think of all the hours, energy and concern spent worrying about them...

                            But, after all... "Mario said..."

                            And when you post a "Thumbs down" response (all the while granting them the NEVER-RECIPROCATED-COURTESY of allowing them to post) they address you with a condescending tone... and INSULT YOUR INTELLIGENCE by saying things like

                            "Much love to you ... I know my knowledge and wisdom to be that of a gnat compared to the wisdom and knowledge of God... It would, I believe, to be beneficial to me (and to others) to be shown wherein I am in error, thereby I may stand corrected."

                            So at this point they are even acting as the spokesperson of "THE OTHERS"... others who might not necessarily agree with them... or might find their methods objectionable... or simply have had ENOUGH.

                            Surveys exist for a reason. Pass it along...

                            And maybe some people should contact "others" and ask them what they think before they allow themselves to sandbag those who, for nearly 2 years, have tolerated their habitual and obsessive-compulsive drive to proselytize

                            Lastly, no true "physicist" would force the experiment in order to confirm a hypothesis. That's how self-fulfilling prophecies are born...
                            True scientific methodology requires testing the hypothesis under every possible set of conditions. We're merely providing one more set of conditions — in a test of faith sort of a way.
                            Last edited by Daheshville; 01-21-2009, 04:32 PM. Reason: Typos

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                            • #15
                              I think that Mario was very generous with the latitude he allowed in these discussions…not to mention the generous use of his time to work to understand where the person was coming from that was posting all this stuff in the first place…

                              To my mind, I think he was also being very polite in his continually suggesting that this person exercise a bit more self editing of all this stuff for content and relevance to Daheshism. Sadly, this subtleness was over looked... or as I agree with the current thinking... it was ignored because there was some other agenda in posting all this information in the first place.

                              Well, we live and learn... and I think next time... and I am confident there will be a next time... things will be dealt with a little differently.

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